[Shaun] Tonight, part one of an unbelievable Tell All event.
On 90 Day Fiance: Before the 90 Days,
the couples are truly ready to tell all.
I find out that she was seeing someone.
No, no, no, no, no.
Adnan, be quiet.
Since you have seen Faith,
have you had sex with anybody else?
Yes.
With the girl that gave me gonorrhea.
You went back to the girl that gave you gonorrhea?
[Shaun] Joey, we reached out to your friend group.
None were willing to attend today.
Is there anything that you were worried
that they would bring up?
Hmm.
Um...
Yes or no.
Holy [bleep].
Don't let your ego [bleep] you, man.
I went at a guy with a gun in my face
because my ego.
Bro, you're gonna [bleep] your life.
Adnan, I'm gonna say this one last time--
Get him out-- get him out-- get him out of my sight.
I'm trying to.
How was sex with Josko
after all of that anticipation?
Oh, my God.
Wow. Thank you for sharing.
I wasn't gonna go here, but I'm gonna share something
now that you shared that.
He took a video of us without my knowledge.
What?
How we doing? How we doing?
Hey, bird, I'm Loren.
You guys come here often?
No?
Being in America definitely makes me miss the Philippines,
but I'm stuck here for right now.
I feel like I'm misunderstood.
I mean, I might have unconventional views
compared to some of the other people that are here today.
But, I mean, like it's not their relationship.
Why do they care?
Well, wish me luck, guys.
I'm going into some crossfire today.
I mean, I know you guys aren't gonna [bleep] on me
like the rest of the people today.
See you later, guys.
[Brian] I'm feeling a little anxious today.
A little happy and a little anxious.
But I got some things to get off my chest.
I definitely think Ingrid will...
try to make me be the bad guy today.
I mean, I got my issues, no doubt.
But Ingrid's no [bleep] angel,
and I want the world to see that.
I think she's going to be finally revealed,
and I can't wait for it.
[Vanja] The last few months have been very interesting.
A lot of drama has transpired.
What Bozo did to me was just wow.
And then I met Josko,
and that was an incredible, passionate romance.
And I really feel like I need to, uh, come here
and tell them my piece of mind
and be able to tell my side of the story,
um, and finally be heard.
-[Loren] Uh-oh, uh-oh! -Here, here, here, here, here?
Here we go. This is my guy.
Is that what you want?
-Yeah, I'd be into that. -How we doing, man? How we doing?
Good. How you doing?
-Good. Doing good. -Nice.
-Yeah. -Nice.
I mean, what the [bleep] was Loren thinking?
You got all this baggage, bro.
You're open like [bleep] Denny's,
slinging hash every 24 hours, bro.
Slow down.
It can't happen that way. You got to slow down.
Slow down, young man. Slow down.
-Bro. -Yeah?
What the [bleep], man?
-Right. -I just worry about sexual diseases
and your [bleep] falling off.
-Of course. -You know?
You actually lose hearing from gonorrhea.
It won't fall.
-[scoffs] Well-- -But I took care of it in all of a day.
-Yeah. -So.
No, the girl who actually gave me the disease,
she hit me up last night and she's like,
"We're going to the movies in two months
when I get back from Turkey, right?"
And I'm like, if she's paying for it,
we'll go hang out, but that's about it.
[exhales] Wow.
I'm confused and I don't understand you, Loren.
Bro, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Why-- I--
I hope you learn from all this [bleep],
and you come at it-- come at it
a different way next time, bro.
I think it took a little bit of time,
but I think Magda trusts me.
I think we're... I think we're all right.
We'll have to see. I don't know.
I understand there's going to be [bleep] talking.
Am I ready for it?
I don't know.
But I know it's coming.
I don't know, it's like very hard to talk [bleep] about me
because I'm just a likable...
nice awesome person, so.
I don't expect other couples to have my back.
I also really do not value 90% of their opinion at all,
so I could really care less.
[laughs] That's really not gonna affect me,
anything they say.
I would never take advice from, like,
Like, I don't consider them to...
I don't know,
be like someone that should be giving advice at all.
Good morning, squishy mommy.
Squishy mommy. Squishy, squishy.
[Matilda on phone]
I've missed you more.
I love my squishy mommy.
Squishy, squishy.
I always talk to Matilda every morning.
I tried to get through the phone so I could kiss you like
mmm, mmm.
Am I in there yet?
Being able to do this,
squishy, squishy, squishy over the phone...
Squishy, squishy, squishy, squishy, squishy.
...that takes you through the day.
[Matilda speaking]
I'm not gonna lie.
Today, we're gonna be seeing some couples that...
I told you my opinion about them already.
And I'm sure they're going to scrutinize our relationship
just the same.
If I ever-- if I get too mad, please stop me.
If you-- if there's anything that you disagree with,
let me know.
I will. Be seeing you shortly.
Let me out please. Thank you.
♪♪ What! What! ♪
[hard hip-hop music playing]
I don't think anybody else here
really has a right to judge my relationship.
♪♪ Wh-wh-what! ♪
Opinions are like asses.
Everyone has one, but, really,
the one I'm concerned with is Matilda's and mine.
-Hi, guys. -Hi.
Hi, I'm Vanja.
-Vanja. How are you? -Nice to meet you.
-Loren! -Vanja. Nice to meet you.
-Like a beauty pageant. -Yeah?
-Yeah, what's up with the beauty pageant? -What a gentleman.
Wow! Thank you.
-How you doing, guys? -[Vanja] Hi, Niles.
-Hi. -Hi.
-How are you? -Hi.
-Okay, so... -[Brian] What's up, dude?
-Brian. -Brian. Yes, sir.
-Loren. -That's right.
Tigerlily.
-[Loren] No! -No!
-[Vanja] Nice. -Boom.
[Niles speaking]
[laughing] Yes, I am blond.
-[Brian] So you know her. -[Loren] Fun fact.
Fun fact.
I think you'll be very opinionated.
-You think? -Yeah.
We'll see.
There's a six-hour time difference...
-Hey, how's it going, buddy? -[Brian] Break this up.
-Joe. Nice to meet you. -Joe!
-Oh, my goodness. -[Brian] You're bigger than you look on TV.
-You look shorter. -I look shorter on TV?
Wow. I could say the same about you--
-Nah, I'm just-- [laughs] -I'm short, bro. I'm short.
I think that the couples are gonna be really surprised
to see Adnan, like, live in person.
-Lily. -What?
No, Cruz is gonna do your hair.
No girls touching you, honey.
No, no.
[Cruz laughing]
I think that the other couples
will definitely think that Adnan is controlling.
But, you know, it doesn't bother me.
It's still a fun adventure.
Hello, hello.
[Joe speaking]
[Vanja] Adnan!
How are you?
[Joe speaking]
[Brian] Bro, come in here, man.
-Yeah. What's up? You nervous? -[Joe] What's up, buddy?
-Look at him, in the States. -You scared, bro? Come in here.
-[laughing] -Joe. Nice to meet you.
[Brian] You here, bro?
Yeah. Come sit.
-[Brian] Finally. Good, buddy. -How are you? Doing good?
-Okay, so I can't-- No handshake? -No, you can't.
Just-- you stay.
-Elbows? Elbows? -That's right.
[laughs nervously]
[Adnan speaking]
I'm feeling so excited to meeting other couples.
I don't know if they're gonna be jealous
or negative or something,
but I will respect anyone who will respect me.
I have a thing for men telling women
what to do, how to behave, how to dress.
It just seems very demeaning, very, um,
you know, "I'm the man. I'm the boss,
and you're gonna do as I say."
And that's not the way a healthy relationship works.
I know you're talking about, uh,
you have a disease or something, right?
I had gonorrhea for a couple of days.
-It's gone already? -It's gone.
-It's gone? You didn't have anything? -Yeah. Yeah.
You are not sick now?
No, I'm not sick now.
You are sure you didn't have this disease?
-[Loren] No. -I have a family. I will kill you.
No, I know.
Adnan needs to chill, bro. He's a young guy.
But, like, this possessive, you know,
"I can wear this, I can do that,
you can't do this,"
it's insecurity, man, and it's not sexy.
Yep. Just-- Thank you much.
[Adnan] Hello, TV! Hello!
[Niles] Oh, this is gonna be fun.
[Loren] Hi!
Hi.
How's everybody?
[Vanja] Good. How are you?
[producer] All right, guys, here we go.
Ready? Five, four, three, two...
Welcome to 90 Day Fiance: Before the 90 Days,
the Couples' Tell All.
I'm Shaun Robinson.
There is no better feeling than falling in love.
But staying in love is not always easy.
Tonight we'll talk to these couples about their journeys,
why they either proceeded towards marriage or broke up,
and any shocking developments since we last saw them.
As you may have noticed,
one of our couples is not here with us.
Rayne and Chidi will not be joining us tonight.
We wish them both the very best.
Okay, we have so much to discuss,
so let's jump right on in.
Tigerlily and Adnan, good to see you.
-Thank you so much. -How are you?
-Good to see you. -You look fabulous.
-Thank you. -Um, now, great to meet you both in person.
Adnan, welcome to America.
Thank you so much.
I'm so happy to be in America with you guys.
So your visa was approved?
Yeah, my visa is approved.
That is big news.
And, Tigerlily, last we saw you,
it was very early on in your pregnancy.
-Mmm-hmm. -How are you doing?
-Good, good. -Good?
We have a baby.
-You have a baby. -He's six weeks.
I think we have a picture of your beautiful baby.
Can we take a look at that?
-Aw, bubby! -[Shaun] Aw!
-[Loren] Aw, so cute! -Wow!
-[Vanja] He's so cute! -[Adnan] Aw, bubby and Daddy.
Very sweet.
I love you, bubby! [kissing]
Aw, I miss him now.
I miss him, too.
[Shaun] Well, congratulations again.
We're going to talk later to find out where that prenup
and power of attorney situation stands.
Right now, I'm going to turn it over
to Loren and Faith.
-Welcome. -Hello.
Hi there. How are you?
Doing good.
Okay. So the last time we saw you two,
Faith had given you back the ring.
Um, have you two spoken since then?
Every single day.
Since you've been back in the United States--
-Well, there was like a one-month period... -...you've spoken every day?
...we didn't, and then it was back to normal.
All right. So, let me just-- I just want some clarity here.
-[Loren] Yes. -So, Loren,
you and Faith are back together.
You're engaged now.
Correct.
Faith, do you have your ring back?
[Loren] So what happened was...
I've sent five of those so far.
The one with the rings
was picked through by drug addicts
and stole the rings out of the box
before I shipped it to her,
so she didn't actually get the rings that I was shipping.
Wait a minute. Okay.
-Hold up. Hold up. -[Vanja] Wow. Okay.
[couples chattering and laughing]
-[Joe] Oh, my God. -Wow.
[Shaun] So there's no ring.
Yeah, no, when she got the box,
I was so sad because it wasn't in there.
She dug through the box and it was just not there.
And I'm just like, "Oh, my God."
So, Faith,
do you consider yourself engaged again to Loren?
Um...
No.
Okay, we're going to get into that.
Veah and Sunny, I'm coming to you next.
How are you? Very good to see you.
-Hi. -Sunny, how are you?
I'm good. How are you doing?
I'm doing fantastic.
Ready to get into your journey.
Veah, you were supposed to be with us here in the studio.
What happened?
Yeah. So, after I came home, I started to get sick.
Like, I started to experience
like a lot of shortness of breath.
Like, even swallowing is just like super painful
and has caused me to lose a lot of weight.
I'm down like 50 pounds.
-Oh, my goodness. -Um...
After months of doing tests, you know,
they were able to find gallstones.
And I think we're on the right track now
to get this all figured out.
Well, Veah, we certainly wish you the best of health.
And thank you so much for making the effort
to be with us today.
Vanja and Bozo.
-Hello. -How are you?
Good. How are you?
We all saw your relationship dissolve.
Mmm-hmm. Very quickly.
Very, very quickly.
What is it like seeing Bozo today?
Um... [clicks tongue]
I guess...
I don't know. Ugh.
Disappointment, sadness.
[Shaun] All right.
A lot to talk about with the two of you.
Now let me move on to Joe and Magda.
Hi.
Joe, um... [chuckles]
Why were you calling her "Magna" for so long?
Well, in my defense,
people in Poland call her "Majna,"
so it gets a little confusing
because it's like Magda, Majna.
And then I kind of combined them into "Magna."
Mag-- I don't know.
I just don't think I was saying it correctly.
No, you weren't. [laughs]
She wasn't correcting me either,
so it wasn't, like, uh... I'm doing my best.
All right. We will be hearing a lot about your journeys.
Let me go now to Niles and Matilda.
Hello.
Hi, everybody.
Matilda, how long has it been
since you have seen your husband?
It's been a long time.
Ten months.
It's been ten months since you've seen each other?
-Yes, it has been. -Yes.
[Shaun] Wow!
-Um-- -That's what I say every single day.
It's been tough, huh?
Yes, it's hard being apart from each other like that,
especially because our love is really freaking strong.
There is so much to talk about with the two of you,
so we'll dive into your journey in just a few.
Brian and Ingrid, welcome.
Thank you.
Uh, we saw you both struggle to connect
once you met in person,
and, ultimately, it was just too much
for your relationship to handle.
Are you both still broken up?
Uh, we are broken up, but, um,
I'm with somebody new.
You are?
Okay. Ingrid, what about you?
Are you single or in a relationship?
[speaking in foreign language]
[translator in English]
You are both in a relationship.
Did you guys know this about each other?
[speaking in foreign language]
[Shaun in English] Okay. We'll be back to you
in just a little bit.
Now, these couples tonight faced a multitude of problems.
Money, intimacy, religion, and more.
There is so much to unpack.
All right, everybody,
are you ready for some questions?
We're ready! You ready?
-All right, yeah. -Of course we're ready.
[Shaun] All right. Let's jump right in.
I want to kick things off with Loren and Faith.
Now, Faith, you were very, very triggered and upset
by what happened that last night together.
So, are you officially back together
as boyfriend and girlfriend?
Um...
But not engaged.
Tell me, Faith,
what is making you so emotional right now?
Do you-- Because I know that this is your real first boyfriend,
and is it that just you feel trauma-bonded with him
and that it's hard to let go?
Or do you feel like that's really true love?
[Faith speaking]
Faith, I just-- I just have to ask, okay?
Loren has shown you who he is.
Okay?
I'm just gonna tell you,
believe him.
Believe him.
Believe what you have seen from him already.
What do you mean by that, Niles?
At the very end,
when Loren was clearly not getting his way,
he started making threatening gestures.
To me, there would not be a conversation after that.
Is that how it looked?
That is how I took that.
Okay.
Loren, do you hear yourself when you talk?
Yeah, I do.
I don't think you do. Because if you did,
you wouldn't say some of the things that you say.
-No, no. I hear myself. -I just don't think you take this seriously.
I feel like you're taking this all as a joke.
But it's the way you smile as you say things, too, though.
-[Loren] I always-- It's a defensive mechanism. -It's like--
So it's more of like a nervous thing.
-But seeing her crying and emotional... -But I'll smile-- Right.
-...and seeing you smile, it's like... -She's upset,
and I'm smiling because I don't like it.
And it's really complicated,
but it's just something that happens.
So, Niles, you don't think
that Faith should stay with Loren?
Absolutely hell to the [bleep] no.
Let me ask the couples here.
Who thinks, by a show of hands,
that Faith should have left Loren for good?
Wow.
Um, Loren, you don't have many supporters here.
No, I know.
[Vanja] It just seems like it was a lie after a lie after a lie.
So for her to-- you know,
she hears one thing and then she has to process that.
Then the next day, it's another thing.
She has to get adjusted to that.
Then it just keeps-- one blow after another after another.
It's just there's only so much a person can handle.
[Brian] My question for Faith is, um,
it sounds like he's your only option,
and if you feel you cut that off,
now you go back to being alone and being lonely...
You don't look happy right now is what I'm telling you.
The last night, uh, that you and Faith were together
and you were doing this thing with the knife...
What?
Loren, you made a point by saying
you didn't think it was that bad.
No. We were sitting there for a good half an hour
and I was just tapping away. I just got nervous.
And you couldn't think of
anything else to do at that moment,
besides stabbing your hand with a knife?
[Brian] All right, wait, wait. I really didn't feel all that.
I thought Faith kind of overreacted
because he was just kind of tapping
and fidgeting with [bleep], and that was like...
I was tapping on my leg for a minute.
I was tapping on the table--
Loren, think you know exactly how that looks.
I think you do [bleep] just to make people mad,
and that's a form of power.
But why would I want to make people mad?
I'm a prof-- I'm an assistant.
That's what I want to know.
You slept with everyone
and all the time, all the time lie and lie.
How she can trust you?
[Loren] I have a chat log,
and it definitely says that I have physical sex
with both my [bleep] and my [bleep].
-[Shaun] What? -Yes, I've had sex with people.
And I did explain this to her in text,
which I have proof of on my phone,
which I don't have right now.
But apparently, at some point, that got misconstrued.
But she was aware that I was having sex.
So what were you telling her, that you were sleeping
and hoping to get lost in semantics?
Wait. And she asked, "Does that mean sex?"
And I said, "Yes. I sleep with my friends."
Wow!
Faith, did Loren text you
and tell you he was having sex with these people or not?
It seems like you would have remembered that.
Yeah. [laughs]
-Yeah, that's kind of traumatic. -[Brian] I would think.
You said to her you love her.
-That's right? -[Loren] Correct.
So how you can love someone
and still [bleep] your friends?
Well, yeah, I did make mistakes.
All right, we're going to bring out somebody
who's known Loren for years
and can hopefully help shed some light
on who he really is.
Please welcome his friend and ex, Esther.
Lord have mercy-- Okay.
Ooh, the ex.
-Hi, Esther. -[Niles] Hi, Esther.
[Brian] Hi, Esther.
I am so sorry for you.
Okay, Esther. Wow. We hope that you can, um,
provide some clarity for us about your friend Loren.
First of all, you said Loren jumps into relationships too quickly.
Why do you think that is?
He is trying to find love.
So he's kind of been like,
all right, if it doesn't work with this one,
he already kind of has a backup plan.
So he has, like, a wide variety.
Until someone said,
"No more. Me and you. That's it."
But that's what Faith said.
-But isn't that what Faith is-- -That's what Faith said--
Faith never actually said that until he got there,
until he actually brought up the news that...
he had an STD.
So he was just having sex with other people
to have backups.
I mean, that just doesn't make sense that he's giving it all
to a person that he considered himself
to be in a relationship with
and then he's just going around
and spreading the joy.
Did Faith know what was going on?
[Esther] He kind of just like,
"Okay, I'm sleeping at this person's house."
I mean, I should have butt in and been like,
"Uh, I don't think she understands that."
But then Loren, his--
Faith, I'm really sorry
that I did not tell him to elaborate.
He said, "She speaks English. She understands."
-No. -I was like, "Eh, I don't think so."
[Vanja] She doesn't have to tell him,
"Hey, please don't eff around."
-That should be a given, that if you're-- -When I told her I was,
she didn't say no.
[Niles] So, Loren, if nobody tells you to walk off a cliff,
you're gonna walk off a cliff?
[Loren] I would legitimately walk off a cliff if--
Why haven't you done that yet, then?
I have before.
-Really? -[Shaun] What?
-Yeah. -We used to have this really cool cliff,
-and we'd like drive trucks off it-- -[Shaun] Okay, guys.
-Okay. Okay, guys. -[Brian] Yeah, reel it in. Reel it in.
Loren does give me a headache, okay?
There's a few times where I'm just like,
"God damn it, Loren. Like, you're rid--"
-It's almost like-- -[Esther] He does,
but it's like--
So if there's like a pyramid scheme,
he's gonna fall for it and lose all his money.
And whose fault is that?
I'm sorry that he's not street smart.
Okay. Let's get back to their relationship.
Okay. Loren, when you went to the Philippines,
you had a one-way ticket, right?
Yes.
Did you buy the ticket specifically to see Faith?
No, it was part of a pyramid scheme.
What?
Since you have seen Faith,
have you had sex with anybody else?
During the one week we were apart,
I did have sex.
-Ah. -With the girl that gave me gonorrhea.
Faith, did you know?
No.
[Adnan speaking in English]
Who cares what they think?
Doesn't bother me. It shouldn't bother you.
[speaking in English]
Did you buy the ticket specifically to see Faith?
-No, it was part of a pyramid scheme. -Wow.
So he met this girl, another transwoman from the Philippines,
and she was like, "I'm so in love with you."
And he was like, "Oh, my God, my dream came true."
And she goes, "Oh, buy a ticket.
We're gonna do this. We're gonna start our life."
So then he bought that ticket for love so he can get married and be with her.
-She wasn't actually trans. She was just faking it. -[Esther] Yeah.
She lied and kind of just...
[speaking in English]
[Loren] It was a marriage scam.
[Shaun] Oh, God. Okay.
I can't help it. He's gullible.
Wow.
-[Shaun] Okay, so then you buy the ticket for yourself... -Right.
-...and then what happens? -Oh, she disappeared.
And then I'm like, "Well, if I still have a ticket to the Philippines,
I have to go find love for real, right?
And then I started talking to Faith.
So, Faith... Did Faith... Faith, did you know all this?
You know about [bleep]. She owes me money.
[speaking in English]
At what point in this whole process did you meet Faith?
Um, probably, like, a few days later,
-after... after-- -After you found out this was a scam?
I'm like, "Well, this is a scam,"
-and then-- -[Brian] Back to the drawing board.
-Yeah, "Back to the drawing board. Let's start over." -[Brian] Wow.
Is it that you really loved Faith for Faith,
or is it that she checked off trans, Filipino...
Well, I love Faith for Faith.
...and anybody who... who fit that would qualify?
[Loren] So... so, Faith has something amazing.
She works hard, which is great.
I think she's beautiful, right?
-She is. -And I think if we work together,
we could actually have a pretty cool future together.
It could be hunky-dory awesome sauce, right?
[blows air]
Loren, how long has it been since you have seen Faith
-in person? -Eleven months.
Eleven months. In that eleven months,
have you had sex with anybody else?
During the one week we were apart, I did have sex.
With the girl that gave me gonorrhea.
[Joe] You went back to the girl that gave you gonorrhea?
You went back to her?
[Vanja speaking]
[speaking in English]
[Shaun] I want to know... Faith, did you know
that Loren had slept with somebody since you two broke up?
Um...
[speaking in English]
[Joe] Does it bother you that he had sex
with the person that gave him gonorrhea, though?
Like, you're just like, skimming past that.
I mean, I feel like a lot of people accidentally go back to their exes.
So you're telling me every one of you
-has never been back to your ex? -[indistinct conversation]
No, I've never gone back to my ex-girlfriend.
[speaking in English]
[Shaun] Well, Loren was very open about aspects of his sex life,
but Faith was shocked by how sexually-free Loren claimed to be.
Let's watch these surprising conversations,
including a never-before-seen moment.
[Niles] I don't know how much I can stomach this.
[Loren] So about a week ago, I was out partying with one of my friends.
You know, she spent the night. It's great.
And then in the middle of the night, she was [bleep] with me.
And I got a text from her this morning.
Turns out she has gonorrhea of the throat,
which means I most likely have gonorrhea of the penis.
-[laughs] -[Joe] And you're laughing about this.
-That's the worst part about it. -'Cause it's so stupid.
I never thought that getting a [bleep] from my friend was gonna give me gonorrhea.
I feel like I wasn't doing anything unsafe
because she gets tested regularly and she seemed okay.
But here I am with an STD and a leaky penis.
So something that I do sometimes,
uh, I drink pee, right?
-What? -[chuckles]
-[speaking in English] -[Loren] Me.
-Like, sex. -[speaking in English]
-What? Spell it? Okay. -Yeah.
She knows I drink pee. Don't even...
Yuck.
-It's kind of dirty. -Yes, it's very dirty.
Oh, my God. [chuckles]
-My God. -I can't imagine that, you know,
my boyfriend's drinking my pee.
[speaking in English]
Oh, my God, "Like a plant."
[speaking in English]
-[Loren] Okay. -Oh, boy.
-Okay. -[Vanja] Wow.
Wawa weewee. [laughs]
-[Niles] Loren... -[Loren] Yeah?
...there are five types of people in this world.
You are the last two that I cannot stand.
Stupid and evil.
I was trying to be respectful.
We are friends. Let's see what will happen.
-Then we had Vanja-- -But you didn't. You ended things.
You said, "This is it. We're done."
Do you have a girlfriend?
It comes off like you might have a girlfriend or something,
'cause you're worried about how it's gonna look for someone else.
Well, I don't know, but she reached out to me.
Ooh.
-[Niles] Loren... -[Loren] Yeah?
...there are five types of people in this world.
You are the last two that I cannot stand...
-Okay. -...Stupid and evil.
How is he evil?
You're doing this for the sake of power. As in like you get a reaction.
You've got a reaction out of me.
-You feel powerful? -Power of what?
Power of being able to make someone mad,
being able to disgust somebody.
What did I do that made you mad?
I feel like he's a little too open.
-I'm just like... -So you didn't watch what you just...
you... you didn't watch that just now?
Everyone has weird kinks.
You see why I didn't shake hands with you?
Yeah. No, I understand.
-I can't believe I shook hands with you. -[Loren chuckles]
Yeah, you're laughing about that.
Yeah, you feel powerful right about now.
-[Loren] No. I'm just... -You're disgusting people and you've had...
...having fun with this. This is fun.
He's having fun.
I mean, everybody's allowed to have their kinks.
My concern here is that poor Faith has been hurt by all of your little things
that have been happening along the way.
[Niles] And that's why I called you evil
because you know you're hurting people.
-[Vanja] Yeah. -He knows he's hurting her.
-He knows that. - [Veah] Guys, I feel like...
It definitely doesn't come across like you love Faith at all,
-and, or you care about her. -Right.
It literally just comes across that you're just like breaking her heart.
[Brian] My question is to Faith is that,
are you afraid to make the hard decision to send this guy packing
because you're gonna start losing some money and some support for your family?
Actually...
-[speaking in English] -I'm sure you are.
[Faith speaking in English]
-Loren, how much money have you sent Faith? -I can... I can...
-I think like $8,000 to $10,000-ish. -Yeesh!
-[Shaun] Is that true, Faith? He has sent you-- -No.
How much have I sent? 'Cause it was like almost 2,000 the first time.
And then I just sent you 2,000.
And then there was, like, about 800.
Then there was another couple hundred.
-[speaking in English] -No.
[speaking in English]
Oh, my God. He do that for you?
I did not... I did not asking Loren to send me money.
I know you didn't ask me to, but I have to.
-It's important for me to send you money. -I did not...
-[Esther] He wants to take care of you. -...asking Loren.
Yeah, but no one's questioning if you spent his money.
They're questioning if you, like, think this person's insane
or they love you, 'cause it's crazy.
I'm telling you, I have boxes in my house.
She has a box right now ready to send.
[Brian] What's in the... What are in the boxes?
Cleaning supplies, kitchen stuff.
-For her or for her family? -Both.
I see that he wants to care for her, wants to take care of.
But my thing is, is she putting up with the bull[bleep]
because she knows she's getting all the good packages for her family?
And you know what? If that was the scam,
-then he's falling for it. -[Brian] Not scam. No, not a scam.
If she was using him, he's falling for it,
thinking that they're, like, in love.
I'm not calling this a scam, even.
it's just one person that is putting up with his bull[bleep]
because she's benefiting from the care packages.
Isn't that every kind of relationship?
But the problem is not here. He has something good inside him.
He's trying to be a good person.
But he hurts her with everything he says and does. [chuckles]
You might help her financially,
but emotionally, this girl is, like, destroyed.
Well, she needs to talk to me more.
-If she was more open-- -[Esther] If she said, "Stop,"
-he will stop. -Instantly.
The moment she tells me "No," it's no. It's that simple.
Does she need the financial assistance you've been giving her?
She did say that her family will need a house at some point.
Therefore, I will continue to send money.
If she chooses to use it for that, then she chooses to.
She send you pee in return? You know, like an exchange.
No, okay, so that has to do with when girls [bleep] when you go [bleep] on them.
It's a reaction from a sexual act...
-[Vanja] Oh, my God. -...so that's essentially pee,
-and that's when you drink it. -No, it's not.
You asked for that.
Hey, he asked it. He opened that book.
It has nothing to do with her. The pee has nothing to do with her.
-No, it's not. -You've never [bleep]?
-[Vanja] It's not pee. -[Loren] Sure it is.
-It's pee. -[Shaun] Okay. All right. Let me
-ask you guys something. -[Loren] She has a different kind of [bleep],
-so it's a different oral thing. -[Shaun] Okay.
I think we should give Loren and Faith a breather.
Esther, you can take a break backstage.
And we will hear more from Loren and Faith a little later.
All right. Thank you.
Okay. Let's move on now to Vanja and Bozo.
Bozo, um, how do you feel seeing Vanja here?
[smirks] Hi, everybody. Nice to see you.
[in a somber tone] Hi, Vanja. How are you?
Tell me how you really feel, Bozo.
Did Bozo always have that sense of humor, Vanja?
He did, and sometimes it's a little bit more funny.
Sometimes it's hard to understand.
All right, well, Vanja and Bozo
had a strong long distance connection.
But during their first night together,
Bozo described them as "nice friends."
Let's take a look back at this sudden shift in Bozo's commitment.
I've never dated an athlete before, and he's very hot.
Like, absolute perfection.
[speaking in English]
-[Bozo] Amazing. -[laughs] I'm dying.
Now I am going to Croatia to meet him.
I... I am really hoping to get a ring at the end of this... this trip.
That would be the best gift to send me home with.
[man 1] This is your first time, like...
Yeah, first time meeting in real life.
Like, are you, like, official or maybe something in between or...
[speaking in English]
No, we're not.
I don't think we're just friends.
-[Bozo] I was looking forward to meet you and see where... -[speaking in English]
But has there been chemistry so far?
In... In a, how they say, romantic way...
-[Vanja] Yeah. -[speaking in English]
-Okay. Okay. -[Bozo] You can check, please, those...
Yeah. Here. This is what you said.
He said... [speaking in other language]
[in English] "Thank you, my love. I love you."
And I said, "Oh, we agree there too. And I love you, too"
And then you said, "You didn't tell me today, I love you."
I, uh... I, uh...
[speaking in English]
He's laughing because this is hilarious.
Because I take it at... at face value.
To me, this is a serious thing.
[Brian] Wow.
"Just a friend thing?" Bro, you could have lied a little bit.
You're meeting someone on a dating app.
You're telling them you love them,
but then you're, like, laughing,
and say you didn't really understand that you did it.
I don't know. I feel like you kind of... you had to know what you sent there.
I don't know, man. It's not normal.
[Bozo] When I do the texts I was doing sometimes jokes.
I call her, "What's up, wifey? How you doing?"
When we met in person...
[speaking in English]
-That is just how I feel. - [softly] What?
-Vanja, just like... -That's, like, so misleading, though.
So say what you mean and mean what you say.
-Exactly. -If you don't mean it, don't say it.
Would you say "what's up, wifey?" to your friend?
[speaking in English]
So to protect me, you ended things? Great.
I did understand him when he was saying to give it time,
-um, to let it grow... -[Vanja] But that was also hurtful, you know.
Yes, I understand you can't force the feelings
No. You gave up in the first couple of days, right?
I didn't give up. He ended things with me.
[Brian] Well, because you wanted some time to let it grow.
And you were like, "[bleep]. Get off the pot." Right?
Right? I mean, to be fair.
I mean, yes, I'm there for a limited time. Obviously.
-When you went to Croatia, you two never kissed? -No.
He wouldn't hug me. I had to ask for a hug.
[Loren] Bozo the clown, right?
[chuckles softly]
Bozo, brother, she's a woman, like, a nice one.
Why are you not having feelings to her to, like, cuddle her or kiss her
or to be nice with her, I don't know.
Actually, I sense that she's out of my league.
And I was trying to be respectful.
That... that shouldn't even be a question, because I'm there for him.
I... I am showing my interest.
[speaking in English]
Yes.
[Shaun] All right. Well, feeling lost and alone in Croatia,
Vanja reached out to her cousin for advice.
Now she is here to share some unfiltered your thoughts about Bozo.
Please welcome Sanela.
-Yay. -[Shaun] Hi, Sanela.
-[Sanela] Hello. -[Vanja] My baby.
[both chuckle]
[Vanja speaking]
Welcome. Welcome.
[Shaun] Okay, Sanela, you've been listening to this conversation.
Uh, you had some strong opinions back when Vanja was in Croatia.
How do you feel about Bozo today?
[sighs]
You guys had such amazing conversations before, over the phone.
[speaking in English]
Actually, I did try.
And you have no idea how much admiration I have for what she did.
Let's make that sure.
How many days did you try?
-How long you guys-- One day? -[Vanja] One day.
-[Sanela] That's not trying! -Not even one day.
It... it ended essentially on... on day one.
That's not trying.
Vanja, I was trying to be respectful.
We are friends. Let's see what will happen.
-Then we had, Vanja-- -But you didn't. You ended things.
You said, "This is it. We're done."
So you were not trying to see where it goes.
-You just stopped. -Yeah.
She comes to see you, and then you just act like... like she's just a friend.
"Okay. Nice to see you again. Good bye."
Like, what the [bleep]?
[speaking in English]
I know. She's beautiful inside out.
Like, she's the ideal woman.
[speaking in English]
-What? -[speaking in English]
Do you have a girlfriend?
I feel like you have a girlfriend,
and it comes off that, in, like, in a weird way that
like you might have a girlfriend or something,
'cause you're worried about how it's gonna look for someone else.
That's how it just comes across to me.
-But I don't know. -Boom.
[Joe] That might be it.
No.
Bozo, we know that you and Vanja broke up for a period
when you reunited with your ex.
Did you and your ex reconnect at any point after you went back to Vanja?
We reconnected as friends.
Oh.
-[Bozo] You know... -Well, I don't know, but she reached out to me.
[Joe] The ex reached out to you?
-The ex reached out to me. -Ooh.
[Vanja] She texted me, I texted her back.
Do you have that text on you?
I do.
[Niles] Holy hell.
Are you back with your ex?
Are you gonna propose to your ex? Were you actually gonna do it?
[speaking in English]
[Bozo] Guys, no, no, no, no.
- Gotta go. Apologies, guys. -Look at this. Insane.
-Jesus. -Bozo has left.
Okay. So, Vanja, you said his ex reached out to you?
Yes. She texted me. I texted her back.
So you know, she wasn't sure if Bozo was lying to her,
if he was dating both of us at the same time.
[Shaun] Vanja shared that message with our producers. Let's take a look at it.
"Hi, Vanja. This is Bozo's ex-girlfriend.
I'm wondering if you can tell when you guys started talking. How often.
He was supposedly going to propose to me in December,
but I broke up with him first, and I think he was talking to you then.
Then I feel like he emotionally cheated on me with you for an entire year.
And he refuses to be honest about it.
I thought I was over it, but I feel shocked,
humiliated, angry and hurt all over again."
Wow.
I told her, as far as I know, he was single when I was talking to him.
But how am I supposed to know what's going on in Croatia?
'Cause I just see the procured vision of his life.
Uh, Bozo, do you want to explain that?
[Bozo] Yes, of course.
Uh, apologies to that girl as well that she felt like that.
I never sit on two chairs. My conscience doesn't let me do it.
So, there was no, how do you say, mixing emotions,
mixing relationships, call it however.
[speaking in English]
[chuckles] Good point.
No, that wasn't the case.
Were you gonna propose to your ex? Were you actually gonna do it?
Or did you just tell her that?
[Bozo chuckles] Uh... uh...
We were dating for some time, like, a little bit longer period.
And as a couple, you bring a lot of topics, of course.
So that was also brought.
Are you back with your ex?
[Bozo] No, no, no, no.
I am Kevin McCallister Macaulay Culkin alone. Totally alone.
So the relationship that you had with this woman who sent Vanja the text,
were you talking to her at the same time that you were talking to Vanja?
[Bozo speaking in English]
But not in the way that you brought up,
like mixing two girls, dating at the same time.
Math isn't mathing.
-Math isn't mathing, huh? -[chuckles]
I think he doubled up, at least at some point.
Well, he said he wasn't emotional, which means
-he was talking to both of you at the same time... -[Vanja] Yeah, yeah.
...but he didn't consider it.
So he puts it in his own mind, "Oh, this is not that serious,"
even though he's making it out to be, so, then it justifies it.
I'm honest. I'm honest about this situation.
I have a lot of gray hairs and a lot of sleepless nights,
and I really look forward to give my best not to repeat my mistakes in the future.
So what was your mistake?
Uh, sometimes I try to give the best of me
and it becomes worse.
[speaking in English]
I hope that you will find your perfect soulmate. God bless.
And guys, deepest apologies, I will have to leave this conversation.
[speaking in English]
Bozo, that's not... that's not fair to me.
-Vanja... -You need to stay here and have a conversation
because you owe it to me, and that's not all right.
-I agree. We will talk to each other... -Like, he is celebrating.
...another time. Don't worry.
Two hours, I'm late on the meeting.
Where are you going at ten o'clock at night?
What kind of meeting? With vampires?
[speaking in English]
[Adnan speaking in English]
You need to stay here and be respectful of me.
Bozo, you have a ten o'clock meeting?
-[speaking in English] -[Vanja] That's it.
God bless to all the couples once again in the studio. Thank you.
[speaking in other language] [in English] Will make it up to you.
No, no, no, no, no. It's not all right.
-Really gotta go. Apologies, guys. -Look at this.
-Love you all. Love you all. -This is insane.
Running away again.
What?
-[Vanja] Insane. -[speaking in English]
[Shaun] Tigerlily, um,
we saw Adnan get very angry when you confronted him about his intent
to make his brother, Thaer, power of attorney.
If I was in her position,
I would wanna do everything in my power
to protect what I have.
[Vanja] Wow.
[mockingly] Wow.
[tense music playing]
-Insane! -What is the reason?
Oh, my gosh. I'm so sorry.
-[sighing] -Bozo has left.
[Vanja] Unreal.
[Adnan]
He's going on a date.
It sounds very odd that he has a meeting at ten o'clock at night.
[Vanja] He doesn't have a job.
What kind of meeting does he have?
[chuckles softly]
[Shaun] Okay, while our producers try to get Bozo
to come back and join us,
we're gonna move on.
Sanela, we are gonna let you take a break and rejoin us a little later.
Thank you.
[Brian] Here we go.
[Shaun] Okay, now we're gonna focus on Tigerlily and Adnan.
Are you guys ready for this?
-Of course, we are ready. -[Shaun] Okay. Okay.
Of course, we are ready.
[Shaun] Tigerlily, um...
we saw Adnan get very angry when you confronted him about his intent
to make his brother, Thaer, power of attorney.
Where does that stand today?
Well...
Adnan took back the power of attorney.
-So... -[Shaun] Ah, he did.
Yeah, so Thaer does not have power of attorney anymore.
So that's good.
[chuckling]
As Adnan turns away in disgust, almost,
he wasn't very happy about that I see Tigerlily,
-is that right? -[sighs]
Probably not.
[Shaun] Okay.
[Vanja] If it was limited to business only...
It was not limited.
[indistinct chatter]
He could... He could act as him.
That's not okay.
[Adnan]
Now you see.
But Tigerlily was going to go for that
if you signed a post-nuptial agreement,
you know?
Vanja, do you think that Tigerlily should have stood firm
on the post-nuptial agreement.
Absolutely.
If I was in her position,
I would wanna do everything in my power
to protect what I have.
Emotions you recover from, money is harder.
-Okay. -[Shaun] All right.
Well, Tigerlily brought her glam squad to Jordan
not only to help her with her look,
but for support in her new relationship.
We're gonna talk to Cruz now
to find out what he witnessed and how he really feels
about Tigerlily and Adnan's marriage.
Please welcome Cruz.
-Hi, Cruz. -[Cruz] What's up, everybody?
How are you doing?
-What's up. -Oh, you? Okay.
[Shaun] Looking real sharp there.
Tigerlily.
-[Shaun] Uh, thanks for joining us, Cruz. -Thank you for having me.
Well, you were a firsthand witness to this relationship.
[Cruz] I was.
So, Cruz, you told Tigerlily
that you believed she was being manipulated
and rushing to have children.
Do you still feel that way?
I definitely thought it was a rush to have children.
Yes. [chuckles]
[Vanja] So was the reason that they got married on Day 1
was just to have sex
or was the reason behind--
[Adnan]
I mean, if that's what you wanted, it's what you wanted.
-Yeah. -[Loren] That's what you wanted.
But I wasn't forced into anything.
So, you didn't feel it was necessary to...
to find out what this man was like in person for a while
before you got married?
Yeah, I didn't need to. I already knew I wanted to marry him.
[Vanja] I'm so happy that you guys had your baby already,
that's so awesome,
but do you feel like maybe you should have given a little bit more time
for the two of you to spend time alone
without having a new baby
so that you can dedicate more time to each other at the beginning...
Can I finish my sentence?
Why are we wasting time?
See? He can't even let me...
-He can't let me finish my question. -Why are we wasting time?
[Cruz] I feel exactly what you're saying.
-[Vanja] You know? -[Cruz] I feel exactly what you're saying.
I was like, "You have your whole life, you know?"
[Vanja] Yeah. You have worked so hard for your money.
So, it's not just that your heart could be broken
you could lose money.
[Cruz] Definitely,
and that was a huge concern of mine from the very beginning.
Okay, I wanna talk about a main source of conflict,
Adnan's expectations as a Muslim man,
and Tigerlily's confusion about what she saw
as a double standard.
Here's a look back at some of the moments of disconnect
between the two of them.
I have his brother, Tahir, complaining about my outfit
while Adnan has his shirt end-buttoned to his belly button.
How would you feel
if I take a photo of me without a shirt on,
and I post it on my social media.
Why is it okay for you and not okay for me?
[Tigerlily] I feel like you don't think
that I've made a lot of changes,
and you're not acknowledging my changes.
And it bothers me
because there's just like this double standard there.
[Adnan] You know what?
[exclaiming in grief]
Wow.
[mockingly] Wow.
[Shaun] Tigerlily, today you seem to be agreeing
with everything that Adnan says.
She is.
[Shaun] But during the season you said that he was controlling,
you said that you were always the one who has to change.
Why is it that you are not feeling, it seems, comfortable
expressing those same feelings?
[suspenseful music playing]
Um...
I mean, I...
[suspenseful music continues playing]
I noticed he's on like egg shells,
and I can tell it changes the way you think and speak
'cause you don't wanna piss him off.
[Adnan] Oh, my God.
[tense music playing]
[Shaun] Tigerlily, why is it that you are not feeling, it seems, comfortable
expressing those same feelings.
I think it depends what it is.
Like with the clothing issue, what is it?
I needed to know details about these rules.
Is it that I can't show my shoulders, is it my neck?
-[Adnan] Yeah. -[Tigerlily] It was frustrating for me
that I didn't have specific guidelines.
[Shaun] And you thought it was a double standard, too.
That I have, like, absolutely, like, zero tolerance for.
Do you have him cover up more?
He does. Mmm-hmm.
He changed everything by himself.
He. like, doesn't see female doctors.
He doesn't, you know, shake hands with girls, like--
But did you really care if he had female doctors before?
-No. -[Shaun] You didn't care.
-No. It's just... -[Shaun] You only instituted that rule
because he didn't want you to have male doctors.
Yeah.
[Vanja] It's just, kind of, like, you know,
she's been beaten down, so she's accepting where she is now.
I mean, it just looks like he's dismissing her emotions
and the things that she's going through
because this is, obviously, a very big change for her,
and he's demeaning her.
Look, he's, like, bobbling his head right now.
That's unnecessary.
It seems that you're dismissing what she had to go through
in order to adjust herself to fit into your picture
of who she should be.
Why? Because she has to conform to what you expect of her.
She's giving in, not you.
Of course, I will do everything she want,
and she will do everything I want.
Adnan, it's killing you to let Tigerlily talk, isn't it?
It's killing you to let her speak for herself.
[mockingly] Adnan controlling.
Tell me why controlling?
Yeah. I am controlling now.
She's happy.
What? What do you wanna do?
[Niles] You sound awfully defensive.
She say whatever she want.
Do you feel that you are a controlling person?
I am controlling. My... I am responsible.
'Cause you know what's best for everyone else.
You have to be like a man.
What does a man mean, being a "man"?
That means that you have to put your woman in her place,
is that what that means?
-[Adnan] No. -You tell her what to do and how to be?
I'm all about woman empowerment,
and she's, obviously, a very brilliant, amazing, successful woman,
and somebody who supposedly loves her
tells her that she has a small mind.
And he's... why are you bobbling your head whenever I'm talking?
[Niles]
-What? -[Vanja] You're not respectful.
Like, I'm normal. What's not respectful?
-It's just wrong. -But this is...
This is me I can't, like, pretend.
Yeah, like, so do I do this every time you talk?
I'm like this normal. [chuckles]
It's not all right.
[Shaun] Okay, okay.
Well, Tigerlily struggled to find the line
between Adnan's rules and Muslim rules,
and she was even more confused by Adnan's rules
after learning that Adnan's mom didn't raise him
to follow Muslim customs so strictly.
Let's take a look at this never before seen moment
between Tigerlily and Adnan's mother.
[middle eastern music playing]
Sit, Lily.
[Tigerlily] I'm talking to Adnan's mom
so that I can get clarity on some of these issues
and see if I can get different perspective.
I will happily do anything for him.
But when it comes to any rules in a marriage,
what can you teach me?
[cellphone chiming]
-[clears throat] -[cellphone chiming]
[in other language]
[Tigerlily] One of the rules I'm talking about
is that Adnan likes me to dress covered.
I have changed how I dress,
and I want to be sure I am making him happy.
Yeah. That's different.
Not controlling.
This is mean... It's a different mean.
[Tigerlily] I'm so confused.
After talking to his mom,
it's becoming clear to me
that these rules are not based on Adnan's religion,
but based on Adnan's desire.
[Adnan's Mom]
-[in English] Come, Lily. -Okay.
[in other language]
I don't know. I think this is--
This is the worst relationship I've seen in all my life.
-No. -What you just did there,
you're trying to justify your disrespectful behavior.
[chuckles softly]
Vanja, do you think that Adnan is imposing these rules
because it's his religion,
-or because it's his rule? -[Vanja] No, it's Adnan's rules.
His own mother said that it's not.
It's his rules.
[Brian] It's his small mind.
I don't see this guy doing that.
I see shoulders, I see... you know, on his girl there.
Hey, look, man, if you don't want your wife wearing revealing clothes...
Okay. So everybody else is wrong but not you?
Everyone else is wrong but not you.
No in Arabic... You understand Arabic?
You understand Arabic, what's mean?
They do.
[Adnan]
Not controlling.
That is not how I heard it from when his mother was talking to Tigerlily.
[Vanja] His mom said, "A man should not control.
A man should not tell a woman what to do."
And it was the exact opposite of what Adnan was saying.
And you know, that was a very sweet moment that the two of you had.
But what she said was that nobody should control.
And how did you feel about that, Tigerlily,
when Adnan's own mother said that no man should control a woman.
I'm trying to think of how to phrase this in the best way. Um...
It didn't even--
I think that with Adnan, it's more of like a,
in a positive way,
like, he doesn't want me being in the room with another guy
just by myself.
Those are all to keep the marriage strong.
Who here thinks that Adnan considers Tigerlily his equal?
[Niles laughs hysterically]
[Shaun] No one?
[continues laughing]
-[Vanja] I don't think so. -[Joe] Oh, my goodness, man.
Couldn't be further from truth.
It's killing him every time she answers for herself.
[Joe] Yeah, I noticed.
He's on, like, egg shells,
and I can tell it changes the way you think and speak
because I can see you're thinking about your response
'cause you don't wanna piss him off.
It gives me a little anxiety 'cause I'm watching,
like, I can see you rethinking everything in your head
like, "I can't say this or he's gonna flip the [bleep] out."
[Shaun] You think that she is not expressing her true feelings?
I think she's holding back a little bit.
Hmmm.
-[Joe] Maybe. [chuckles] -[Niles] I mean... Hey, that's not a bad idea.
[Adnan]
-Oh. -[Niles laughs heartily]
All right, if you say so.
[tense music playing]
[Adnan] Oh, my God.
Adnan has walked off.
[Adnan]
So there's control right there.
[Adnan]
[Niles] That almost makes me wanna just talk [bleep] just because he said that.
[Adnan]
It's not okay to tell to your wife that she has a small mind.
Hey, man, I call it as I see it.
When you're wrong, you're wrong.
[tense music playing]
[dramatic music playing]
[Adnan]
Adnan has walked off.
[Adnan]
[Brian]
[Niles] That's what it looked like.
He was very defensive that whole time,
disrespectful of her.
[Shaun] Okay, Tigerlily...
-Yes. -[Shaun] ...it's you and the rest of us now.
-[Tigerlily] Okay. -[Shaun] So, um...
Can you respond to what Joey just said?
He feels you're holding back, and you're afraid to upset Adnan.
Is there any truth to that?
No. I mean, I say what I wanna say.
Like, certain things don't bother me.
So he wanted to show you guys, you know,
that he can walk off and I'll still be the same.
Your outfit's beautiful and everything,
but you're like a hair away from a burka.
Really, you're like ankles to wrist and to neck.
Okay, you guys know I just had a baby.
-[all agreeing] -So I'm not, like, 100% comfortable,
like, with myself.
Nothing to do with Adnan.
I am not confident enough right now
to go and wear some, like, body-con dress.
But if you were, would you? Would he let you?
Yeah, I wear stuff like that.
Like, I wore stuff like that pregnant.
You know, I wear stuff like that--
-And he was okay with you going out looking like that? -Yeah.
[Shaun] So, Tigerlily, why do you think he's so upset?
[Tigerlily speaking]
[Brian] You don't think it got too hot for him and left?
'Cause it got too hot in the kitchen?
No, I think... I'm glad that he went off.
Think you're covering his ass a little bit.
-He looked pretty red. -He left with a little threat.
[Brian] With a little comment like...
[Tigerlily speaking]
I'll know when he's mad.
[mumbling in harsh accent]
He's like, "Be careful."
[Niles] "Better watch what you say."
-That sounds-- -Did he say that?
Yes.
[Brian] He said, "Be careful what you guys say
because I'll come back for you later."
[Vanja] Yeah.
Okay, it doesn't look like Adnan is coming back right now.
Tigerlily, we're gonna give you some time
to go backstage and check on him.
Let's all take a quick break.
-Yes. -[Brian] Yay.
-[Niles] Great. -[Brian] Phew!
[sighs]
Oh, they finished.
You're amazing. Can I give you a hug?
-Why? Thanks. -You're so beautiful.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
[indistinct chatter]
Hi, my life, hi, my love.
Hi, my city, hi, my angel.
-Hi, baby. -Hi, my princess.
Hi, my queen.
[Tigerlily chuckles]
-I don't know. -Yeah.
-Just normal stuff. -That's good.
-No. -Okay, good.
I think that the other couples are just hating on us
because we have a successful relationship.
-It's okay? -Yeah.
I would never take [bleep] from a man. [chuckling]
[chuckles] Right.
If a man tells me I have a small mind,
I would have something to say about that and not just take it.
I would feel like there is lack of respect.
If there's no respect in a relationship, there's no relationship.
-[Brian] So you don't think Adnan respects her? -[Vanja] No. No.
-How could you tell-- -No?
If you tell me I have a small mind, how is that respectful?
I feel that Tigerlily feels comfortable
in a situation where she's controlled,
and I think with Adnan she's developed Stockholm syndrome in a way.
I just want to make sure that she is really happy at the end of the day.
Is this what she really wants for the rest of her life?
If the answer is yes, awesome.
But, you know...
It's not that we don't believe you,
we don't agree with your posture, man.
It's not okay to tell to your wife that she has a small mind.
Hey, man, I call it as I see it.
When you're wrong, you're wrong.
-If I think you're wrong... -But I'm wrong?
[Brian speaking]
What you thought when you were five,
you knew for sure that's what the [bleep] was going on.
When you were 15, you knew for sure that was the truth.
And now when you're 23 now, this is the truth.
You change, bro.
[Brian] Bro.
[Brian] When I was 20 years old...
Because I was a hardheaded young man like you.
I followed my hard head like you.
Listen, don't let your ego [bleep] you, man.
For sure. I went at a guy with a gun in my face because of my ego.
Bro, you're gonna [bleep] your life.
Goodbye. Nice to meet you.
Taking it personal, bro. You shouldn't.
[Adnan] Thank you. Thank you so much.
Thank you. I don't have time. Thank you so much.
I see no reason for him not to like his life.
He's in control.
Nobody... Nobody stands up to him.
[Adnan speaking]
He sees it like we're telling him how to run his life.
I'm just trying to save you something... tell you something.
He doesn't consider her his equal.
She's way below.
Niles, you and Matilda haven't seen each other in ten months.
What has taken so long?
I don't have any money.
Would your parents be willing to help you?
Nah, man.
Can I ask you why your parents don't approve?
Like, what's their main concern?
[crew] Here we go.
Yeah. What would you say?
[laughter]
Hey, Shaun, what if you were divorced seven times and we found that out,
-what would you say? -Oh, whew!
[crew] Here we go, guys.
Five, four, three, two...
Right now we are going to move on to Niles and Matilda.
But before we do,
you may notice that Adnan and Tigerlily are not here.
I heard there was a lot that was going on backstage.
Could anybody fill me in?
Well, in one sentence,
Adnan is having a temper tantrum right about here.
[chuckles]
Let him cool off. Let him cool off for a second, then we'll talk to him.
[chuckles]
[indistinct chatter]
[Adnan speaking]
Who cares what they think?
It doesn't bother me. It shouldn't bother you.
They are not good people.
They're trying to change my mind.
These people, they don't matter.
[exhales]
What was the conversation when we were taking a break?
We were talking about him being a little more mature,
a little more, just realizing,
at his age, at 23, he's got room to grow.
And I was telling him some things,
and then he said to me, "What are you-- You're a guy in a wheelchair.
What are you gonna teach me? What'll you show me?"
I feel like he's hiding behind his religion and culture,
when in reality, that's not the case.
-It's Adnan. -It's an attitude problem.
-[Vanja] This is an Adnan problem. -Yes.
Sunny, do you think that Adnan is hiding behind the culture?
I feel like kind of because...
That makes me to wonder what's going to happen.
[Shaun] Hopefully we can talk about this more
when Adnan and Tigerlily get back.
But right now, I want to move on to Niles and Matilda.
Niles, you and Matilda haven't seen each other in ten months.
But you promised you would have her
here in the States within five months.
What has taken so long?
Well, I found out that the visa process doesn't work that quickly,
especially for people who don't have
thousands of dollars lying around.
It takes forever.
We're waiting for our appointment letter
to figure out when they're gonna schedule her interview
so that she can finally get her spousal visa.
So, Niles, have you paid all of the fees already?
Not all of them yet.
I've paid my side already.
So who's paying for her fees? You or her?
We haven't discussed that yet, but, hey, Mat...
-we're going to discuss that later at some point, right? -Good question.
So how much money do you need to complete the process?
Another $4,000.
Have you considered asking Mr. Arc
for any financial assistance?
After we're done here, I need to make a call.
[laughter]
[Vanja] Would your parents be willing to help you?
'Cause I know they were against the relationship to begin with.
So would your parents be willing to help out?
Okay, so you know my parents were against the relationship to start with, right?
-Yes. Yes. -Okay.
So repeat your question again with that in mind,
and you'll understand why I haven't--
[Vanja] So they haven't changed their mind?
No, they haven't.
Oh.
[Brian] Can I ask you why your parents don't approve?
They don't understand the relationship.
They don't understand long distance relationships.
[Joe] Like, what's their main concern?
Hey, Mat, should I tell them what they actually said about you?
They think she's a scammer.
I'm like, "I don't have any money."
I don't have any money for her to take.
Matilda, let me ask you something.
If Niles lived in Peru,
would you love him the same and want to move to Peru with him?
Come on, man.
Of course, yes.
[Brian] It's not America?
It's not come to USA, enjoy the milk and honey, all the gold in the streets?
Quite frankly, if she wanted money, if she wanted a green card,
there was a lot easier ways to do that.
She is doing this the hard way.
[Brian] No, no, no. Wait a minute.
But it ain't that easy, though.
Men with money just don't take anything like that.
USA life. USA life.
USA life to pay $1,000 for rent every month?
USA life like what?
[Niles] You sure about that, man?
[chuckles]
I love you for who you is.
And it's not because of money that I love you.
Aw.
[greets in Arabic]
You cooled off, man?
[bleep]
[Brian] You don't know anything you're talking. You don't know.
I'm sure your wife would love a more mature Adnan.
Now you're putting words in my mouth.
You wouldn't like a mature Adnan?
I'm not putting words in your mouth, so don't put words in my mouth.
I'm asking, would you like a mature Adnan?
You want to change me to be a bad person?
You cooled off, man?
[bleep]
I'm talking about respect, everyone.
Vanja...
[Vanja] I just want Tigerlily to be happy and respected and cherished.
And I feel like when you tell somebody that they have a small mind,
that's not a way to show love and respect to your significant other.
I just want her to be loved and respected, period.
[Adnan] Okay.
So, Adnan, I understand there was a confrontation between you and Brian.
I'd like to know what that was about.
Brian said that he was trying to give you some advice,
and you said, "Why should I take advice from somebody in a wheelchair?"
-Did you say that? -Yeah.
[Adnan] But you didn't know what that reason?
-Boo. -[Vanja] Terrible.
You don't know anything you're talking. You don't know.
This shows your age and your maturity level.
[Adnan] Whatever, I'm young or not.
I'm sure your wife would love a more mature Adnan.
[Adnan] Okay.
-[Brian] That's it. -But now you're putting words in my mouth.
[Brian] You wouldn't like a mature Adnan?
I'm not putting words in your mouth, so don't out words in my mouth.
I'm asking, would you like a mature Adnan?
-I think he's fine. I'm like, that's who he is-- -[Brian] Okay.
Then that's your business and you're a couple and I wish you guys the best.
-[Adnan] Thank you so much. Thank you so much. -But--
But you want to give me your advice
to change my mind to be in a worst way.
You want to change me to be a bad person.
Not to be Adnan, a good guy here.
[Brian] Not to be more confident?
[Niles] Wait, wait, wait. Let him talk. Let him talk.
He's just burying himself. He's just burying himself.
[Niles] Adnan.
[Niles] Adnan!
-Let me continue. You're wrong. -No, no.
I ask you one question.
Let Matilda answer. Let Matilda answer.
Mat.
No, I wouldn't.
I've never felt jealous of that.
[laughing]
[Niles] Adnan...
Wow.
[Niles] Adnan...
What?
Oof.
Niles, calm down.
[Shaun] Next time on 90-day Fiance: Before the 90 Days,
the couples tell all.
In the beginning of your relationship,
Magda, you put an engagement ring on your finger.
I would want to have a conversation with him first
to make sure that we're on the same level.
[Shaun] So are you two finally engaged?
Sunny, I've seen you having sex before getting married.
That's right or not?
That's true.
[Veah] But if you don't want to be a strict Muslim,
you don't have to be a strict Muslim.
Oh, my God, don't yell.
Adnan, give me a chance to talk.
Brian, do you still stand by your feeling
that Ingrid didn't really try to make the relationship work?
I just feel she wasn't ready for it all.
[Vanja] So you thought you were gonna go all the way with her
even though you haven't really made out yet?
[in Portuguese]
[in English] Why wear all that and be like,
"Oh, this is what you could have?"
I mean, come on.
What you did, that was not cool.
Why did you pull that stunt in front of my father?
Do you know what people down south
-do to people who do that kind of stuff? -What?