Have you closed that match?
Er...
The year 2012
was the most painful in the history of FC Bayern.
Germany's best team no longer came from Munich.
They humiliated us.
In quotation marks.
You can also leave them out,
put an exclamation mark after it.
It came from Dortmund.
The German championship went to Dortmund.
The DFB Cup went to Dortmund.
But we always said: "The Champions League!"
We're in the Champions League final at home.
Bayern were the first team in Champions League history to reach the final in their own stadium.
They lost it.
On penalties.
That situation will never happen again.
I'll never get to play a Champions League final at home again.
When you have the chance to win the Champions League
at your own stadium,
and you fail, in that manner...
Then you can't say it's completely closed in any way.
Teams can crumble because of that.
That's not it for us yet.
That's just not it.
That can't be it.
Not this team.
This is the story of this team.
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We had the belief.
We want to become Champions League winners together.
And that was the history that this team had from previous years.
That we'd failed but always kept believing.
We want to win this title.
The story starts
back in the 2008/09 season.
We had success with the national team at the World Cup 2006.
At the European Championship 2008 we got to the final.
And with Bayern, we weren't yet really
in a position to say: "Yes, we can win the Champions League."
The club were regularly in the quarter-finals,
round of 16, but there we were more like
the team that got knocked out in the quarter-finals at the latest,
because the opponents then were just too strong.
My goal in my career, with Bayern Munich and with the national team, was always
to get as far as possible, to be among the best.
And especially a game like the one against Barcelona,
that certainly opened our eyes to how far away we still were.
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL
I'm still grateful to FC Barcelona today
that the coach obviously told them
to go a bit more gently in the second half, so that it didn't become a debacle.
We were given a nice demonstration by Barcelona.
They played real tiki-taka with us.
With Messi, we had Eto'o up front, we had Henry,
we had speed and we had physical strength.
I was sinking deeper and deeper into my seat.
You stood on the pitch and thought,
you're playing against 14 Barcelona players.
We had the ball the whole time.
Bayern could hardly breathe.
When you lose 4-0 as FC Bayern,
then you know about it.
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, what's your summary
or your impression or your shock after this performance?
Yes, I think we were all shocked.
Were there moments, particularly in the first half, when you were ashamed
to be captain of the team?
Yes...
The fact is there will obviously be discussions.
There'll be discussions about the coach.
Yes...
CHAPTER 1 TURNING POINT
We at FC Bayern were looking for a man who has his own opinion,
who tries new things, who deals with young people.
With Jürgen it was like... That was quite a crazy situation.
We already knew in October, November 2007
that the Hitzfeld era would come to an end on 30th June 2008.
Then something happened
that was fundamental to the story.
Karl-Heinz came one morning and said:
''I had an idea last night.
We try to get Jürgen Klinsmann."
He always saw football very physically, just as he played himself,
very concerned about fitness and stamina.
Jürgen Klinsmann had an unbelievable ability to motivate people.
He certainly changed a lot with us.
The training sessions, the training content.
Jürgen Klinsmann placed a lot of value on fitness.
But he also set an example of that, you have to say,
set an example of professionalism.
Klinsmann was a good guy.
A coach with a good mentality.
We can always do that during the season too, you know?
When a player wants to know: "Where do I stand right now? Where am I right now?"
Nice holiday?
Brief, but okay.
Zé, look: Marcelo [Martins], a Brazilian, okay?
Have you spoken to him already? Martin [Vásquez],
Darcy [Norman], Thomas [Wilhelmi] you know,
Nick [Theslof], Jürgen.
Okay? Welcome back!
The Jürgen Klinsmann team
was certainly quite large for its time.
There were several people, there were Americans there,
fitness coaches, technical coaches and everything.
With Klinsmann
we were immediately in a situation
in which results weren't good.
We hadn't won, but at Bayern you always have to win.
The culture of FC Bayern is hunger.
You always have hunger for more.
Always: what's the next title?
What's the next target?
Always this must-win.
The expectations are
already predefined at FC Bayern in a natural way.
The wishful thinking is always to go into the season,
win both domestic trophies
and compete well in Europe.
Okay, we can improve here. And then we always have to do it like this, when we now say...
He initiated a tremendous amount here.
The club was a bit crusty,
in the squad, in the training facilities
and certain structures that we had here.
He cleaned up a lot and did a lot of new things.
That helped FC Bayern very much.
That was an idea of the architects
who refurnished the performance centre.
I didn't know about it and then I saw them,
like the players.
So I never had anything to do with the Buddhas.
The training ground completely developed.
With the investment, with the building and everything
you certainly noticed that Säbener Street changed.
But in the team you didn't notice that as much.
It all started very sluggishly, and then we gradually got going.
Bundesliga was more sluggish. In the Champions League we actually had no problems.
It was really phenomenal how the boys played there.
I'd say it was okay, but what is okay for FC Bayern?
You always have the highest standards and we wanted to go down a new route.
And really develop the team, in our style of play too.
We weren't as dominant as people are used to from FC Bayern.
We lost 5-1 at Wolfsburg and 4-0 at Barcelona.
And there it was already 4-0 at half-time.
On their day, Barcelona are Barcelona.
And particularly at that time, they were just at their absolute peak.
I think football always goes in cycles,
and it was Barcelona's turn back then.
It just wasn't doable.
You know yourself, at FC Bayern you don't
have the time, after such a humiliation,
after such a debacle, to say: "There, we can take that."
And clearly encounters like that always open the club's eyes, I think.
Where do you want to go? What do you actually want to achieve?
At FC Bayern that's always the maximum.
And then when you go down 4-0 at Barcelona, you know that's a long way off.
The ideas of football weren't right.
That had nothing whatsoever to do with interpersonal relationships, though.
We had a very, very good relationship until the end.
Obviously we then parted after a year
because we just had different ways of thinking.
And that's also normal in football.
I don't know whether his style of football
might have prevailed in one or two years.
And therefore I learned a huge amount from that year,
with all the bumps and the frictions I obviously had, with Uli and everyone around.
So, everyone please take your seats!
Right, I'm sitting down.
In 2009 I was at FC Bayern for six weeks and helped out. For five games.
We had Jupp for a short time as, let's say
— although it doesn't do him justice — an SOS coach.
And then it went well. Then it went well. Quite simple.
In those five games, which weren't that easy either,
we had to somehow make sure we finished in the Champions League places.
But you noticed: the team is alive again.
The joy came back and you noticed that immediately.
I have a feel
for people, particularly in football.
What's important is the team management,
the man management, the communication with the players,
keeping a grip on the dressing room.
He wasn't paid a cent.
We just agreed that he'd get a bonus
if we achieved European qualification.
And thankfully we did.
At that time there were also frequent changes of coach,
more frequent than before with Ottmar Hitzfeld,
who was there for a really long time.
I think a new kind of football then evolved in 2009.
SÄBENER STREET
- Louis, is that right? - Louis!
- Van? - Van! - Then Gaal?
Very good! With "Ch", not "K"! Van Gaal!
Louis van Gaal.
He somehow suited FC Bayern at that time.
He was an incredibly dominant person, not always fun.
He had his own mind.
The Bavarian attitude to life
fits me like a warm coat.
Why? Why?
A proud man! You noticed that immediately.
Mia san mia. We are we.
And I am I.
I am I — yes, I said that already in the press conference.
It wasn't easy because he said
what he thought.
Confident, arrogant, dominant, honest, hardworking,
innovative,
but also
warm and familiar.
He had a belief in himself,
but I would say he also had a belief in the team.
He helped to get the club going at that time.
Especially Rummenigge and Hoeneß
like to play like Ajax Amsterdam, when I was the coach there,
with the vision
of that playing style.
And that vision is the Louis van Gaal vision.
You've brought your colleagues with you here.
Do you want to introduce them?
Yes, I can gladly introduce my staff.
Andries Jonker, a multifaceted coach.
He was also my assistant at FC Barcelona.
Day one at Säbener Street.
And you notice immediately that
everyone's very curious:
What's coming now?
Who's new? What will they do?
How will it turn out?
I often compare it with school days,
when you get a new teacher.
I mean, you're curious.
It was a bit tricky, the relationship with van Gaal...
I'm direct, I'm honest and I can be irritated.
But that's Louis van Gaal.
And I still remember that during training
he was very loud to the players.
And then sometimes the spectators shouted: "That's good! Be clear with them!"
I thought to myself: "Eek!"
You do that too! On it, boom! Here, Christian!
I am a communicator.
And I think that's very important.
Because you have to convince players of your vision.
Every player can shoot a ball from A to B.
And when you do that at the right moment, you are a great football player.
But a football player is also a human being,
and he shall be influenced by his environment.
And that is also important.
That is why I like to speak with all the players individually,
so that I know: what is their ambition, what is the best position of the player,
and how can I use the performance of that particular player?
And then I play the system
that gives strengths to the players I use.
That's the reason the 'total human being principle'
is so important for me, because you can touch them directly in their own language.
Yes, you felt from day one:
they weren't used to that.
Louis van Gaal was someone
who you knew valued discipline.
I think the team also needed that.
Someone who gives you clear standards.
It was important at that moment in time. I'd say it also gave all of us a direction.
And I think, from that point, something developed.
You know
Hermann.
Hermann is also my assistant.
It wasn't that enjoyable for me because he said:
"Hermann, I'll see how it goes, and if it's not working,
I'll get someone else after six weeks."
The reason I kept Hermann Gerland
was because he knows the youth department.
He knows the players in the youth.
After two or three weeks, we sat down and Louis said to me:
"We'll ask Hermann how he rates the players."
We went through the whole player list
and at Badstuber Hermann said:
"He'll be an international."
Louis said: "But he hasn't played yet."
"He'll be an international!"
Nice to hear!
I also got the feeling
that there was a coaching team there who believed in you
and who might throw you in at the deep end.
He walked over to me, I walked over to him.
We shook hands.
He was five to 10 centimetres away from me.
Then we introduced ourselves.
"Are you Holger Badstuber?"
- "Yes." - "Nice to have you here."
And then we went further down the list,
and a few players later came Thomas Miiller. And Hermann said:
"He'll play for the national team."
And Louis said: "What, another one?"
He was pretty certain, was he?
He had a good day there, 'El Tigre'.
Of course, Louis also played a big part in the development of both players.
They gave a fresh air in the group and that is very important.
You have to give young players the chance when they deserve it.
And we did that.
In retrospect it was then said: "Yes, van Gaal always relies on young players."
It wasn't like he said:
"Okay, my friends, I've just bought Mario Gómez, I've got Miro Klose here,
I've got Luca Toni. Three players who between them have scored hundreds of goals,
I just don't need them because they can't do anything."
That's garbage.
"Because I want young players, they're so much better."
Instead it was like: we had a difficult August.
We had a difficult start to the season under van Gaal, who tried out a lot.
We didn't come through, we had no attacking play and there was pressure straight away.
We lost at Mainz.
A draw at home to Bremen.
He then wanted to move Franck Ribéry more into the middle.
But he said, he's a left winger.
I played for two years, under Hitzfeld and Klinsmann, without problems on the left.
I played incredibly well there for two years.
Then van Gaal thought:
How can I play a 4-3-3 with this squad?
I'm actually lacking the right winger.
And that is why I had a question mark
behind the name of Ribéry.
But when Robben was coming,
I had the possibility
to play with two wingers.
And during this time Mark van Bommel made a lot of effort
to convince Louis and the board that Arjen Robben would help us.
I played with him for three years in Eindhoven, in the national team as well.
An outstanding player in the category of Ribéry.
Difficult transfer, very difficult transfer because he was playing at Real Madrid,
and we'd already been interested in Arjen when he was at Chelsea.
He's very important for every team.
I don't understand why Madrid are letting him go.
But hey, that's their idea.
And I'd always kept in touch
with Arjen's father and I said to him:
"When it's right, perhaps we'll still come together."
And then I called Florentino [Pérez] in Madrid,
and said: "We're interested in the player.
What are the transfer fee demands?"
It was 25 million that he demanded.
And then we said: "We'll give it a go."
I recall the day after, Louis van Gaal was coach,
he only put him on the bench against Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga.
We had the feeling that we had to win this game.
If not, I don't know.
And then van Gaal, in typical van Gaal manner of course,
sent Arjen on.
I still remember vividly the substitution against Wolfsburg, when he came on,
and you noticed immediately: "Oh my God, that's working brilliantly up front."
Robben, Robben, and it's 2-0!
Left, right,
we were like two trains on the left and right.
Robben,
and in front is Ribéry,
and Robben moves inside. Ribéry!
One-two, one-two, boom, goal.
Look at what's happening here!
Look at this! That's why they have a Ribéry and a Robben.
That was nice.
It was actually the beginning
of the great story.
The second half against Wolfsburg
was obviously something pretty special.
And yes, they're also the moments you never forget.
I had a nice time everywhere.
I'm grateful for all of it.
I was in Madrid for two years.
At Chelsea three years.
I experienced good times there too,
but the 10 years at Bayern
were definitely my best years.
But you did actually have some doubts, didn't you?
Yes, yes.
But that's logical. Because, like you say,
Bayern at that time
weren't among the best teams in Europe.
And my goal, my dream was still absolutely to win
the Champions League and so of course I was...
With Chelsea I got to two semi-finals,
then you go to Madrid, where there's obviously always the chance,
and then you certainly have a good think before leaving such a big club.
There were certainly some doubts and I still wasn't 100 percent convinced.
But in the end I was.
Then I was really convinced and Bayern made a lot of effort.
I just... That's also always... I'm a bit of an emotional person.
And Bayern really showed me:
"We desperately want you to come here!"
And then I was convinced and said: "Okay, I'll do it." And I threw myself into it.
I then had problems with my knee.
And then Arjen instantly got injured.
And it became quite difficult.
The philosophy of the club was to play 1-4-4-2,
which is also how the team was organised.
Philipp Lahm still played on the left side.
Bastian Schweinsteiger was used to playing on the right side.
I think I always did my best in that position,
although I always knew myself:
really I'm a central midfielder.
And Jupp Heynckes then deployed me in central midfield.
Louis van Gaal liked my performances so much
that he then kept me in central midfield.
When you play with Schweinsteiger in the right winger position,
and he doesn't have the characteristics, he shall not be the great Schweinsteiger.
And that is why I changed the positions.
Philipp Lahm was left full-back.
And I changed that.
He has to be right full-back.
And there he was the great Philipp Lahm.
Then we switched to a 1-4-3-3 system.
We figured out that Thomas Miiller could be an amazing number 10.
An athletically brilliant number 10
with great sense for the spaces.
He was a player
who was playing between the lines.
And he was also a player
who could attack but also could defend and also could press.
Because we were always pressing our opponents.
And then, obviously, things started to fall into place a bit.
For me and above all for the team.
Then the team did a bit better.
Yes, and then the style of our play evolved.
We played better. But we still weren't successful yet.
You have to look for the good spaces.
I had to convince the players to play in another way.
In the beginning we didn't win too much, so it was very difficult —
also for Rummenigge and Hoeneß. That I can understand.
The coach believes in it.
The coaching team believe. We'll get there.
It just needs a bit of time.
Active! Forward!
I say our key game of the season,
and Louis will also say this in hindsight,
was against Juventus.
'The turning point.'
We had our backs against the wall.
We had to win in Turin to progress from the group stage.
You always wait for a big match to see:
Are we at the same level?
Or are we playing at a different, better level?
'Death or gladioli' match in the Champions League!
When you realise
that the confidence, the development is there,
you have no fear!
You know the potential is there, you have the weapons.
And then you also don't panic when you concede a goal.
We stay calm, we keep going.
We were confident we could turn the game around.
We were 1-0 down and had to win the game.
And then there was a penalty.
We always trained the way we have to take penalties.
And Hans Jörg Butt was one of the best.
And then we sent Hans Jörg forward.
I said: "Stick it in!"
I also remember
that Bastian Schweinsteiger called me forward with him.
The coach also said before the game that I'm the number one penalty taker.
I was able to focus on situations very well.
I think that's also an ability you need in general as a goalkeeper.
And I just didn't think about it at that moment.
Then he stuck the ball in,
ran back past me to the goal.
And then we played very well for the rest of the game.
We flourished more and more, we were assured in our passing,
we hardly allowed any more chances and then we got going.
That was an important moment for me.
Because then we really
felt that we can do more.
And because of that there's suddenly a different body language.
Something happened then.
Bayern suddenly got another level.
That match was the moment when the players were convinced of the tactics,
of how we have to play.
The players understood it better at that time
and also understood more and more in the subsequent games what they had to do as a team.
And then Arjen Robben came back,
and then it came together and it started to function.
And from that time on, I think we didn't lose any more.
And then we went on a run in the Bundesliga,
won 10 games in a row — and that obviously makes an impression.
Robben! It's in.
What a great header!
5-1 for Bayern Munich.
That was simply good.
We were always a team, in terms of the personalities...
we were certainly biting and we knew
what we need in order to win,
or rather we knew what we had to invest in order to be able to win.
And then we went into the match against Florence.
I don't think at that moment it was yet
so convincingly strong
that you could say: "Yes, okay, Florence — we'll win that easily."
No.
Yes, if we're completely honest, we also had a fair portion of fluke
and also in that season, in those moments, Arjen Robben on our side.
We just battled well
as a team and always believed in ourselves.
I think that year was the start
of what then grew over the years.
Bayern Munich.
Will play against...
QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
Should I say Sir Alex
or Mister Ferguson? What do you prefer?
Call me Alex, it doesn't matter.
Call me what you like.