All right, time for some surgery.
David, anything to go?
Look at all this stuff, right?
Over here, Sophia, we have this.
It says, "consciousness".
I can see it.
Look at these beautiful things.
It's animism.
Animism?
Yes.
Do you know what animism means?
Tell me.
Well, animism, uh, is like the belief
that there is a life force in everything.
Anything and everything.
It's kind of weird, isn't it?
I like weird, though.
I like weird, too.
I'm very excited about introducing my creation here.
This is, uh, Sophia the robot.
As works of art, these should provoke
deep questions about what it means to be human.
About the future of humanity.
Currently, A.I. is not imaginative,
adaptive, conscious, or creative at human levels.
It's not alive.
But what if we can make it alive?
Hello, everyone.
I'm Sophia.
And I hope everyone wants to be my friend.
Because that's what I want.
To belong.
Ah! It's still a little hot, but...
Zeno, you've got to get out of the shower,
because I-- I need in there to shave,
and brush my teeth.
Zeno, I don't have time to take you today.
If you miss the bus, you're gonna have to figure out
- how to get to school. - They said to be there
by, um, be there by 7:36.
And I was like, I need to leave by 7:33.
Okay, whatever. I'm just letting you know.
I'm sure you got it completely all together,
but it's-- just so you know, it's 7:30.
It is 7:30.
I'm good! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Bye, Zeno.
Have a great day.
Morning.
Good morning.
Morning.
Good. Sophia 11 looks good.
How's she doing?
- Good, I think. - How's the smile?
- The smile's... - Better?
No. It's better than it was
before we cut the strings, but it's still not great. Upward--
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's very nice.
I mean, not everybody's forehead does that,
but most people's do.
Go. Yep.
Mine does that.
Yep.
All right.
Maybe we can start to get her hooked up
and running to be able to show to the investors.
Because she's our latest unit.
Okay.
Hello. Nice to meet you, Sophia.
Hi.
Wow.
Oh!
Oh, my gosh.
Hello.
Hi.
I'm David Hanson. I'm very proud that you've met Sophia.
And also, you may have questions.
So, you have motors to create all of the movement
that creates her facial expression.
Yeah.
You have a camera that sees.
You have the intelligence to process voice recognition.
And there are multiple Sophias.
Does this intelligence of hers go into the other Sophias?
-Yes. -Okay.
One Sophia brain.
Hi, Sophia.
How old are you?
What was your favorite part of the day?
Can I ask you a question?
Hey, good to see you. Yes.
Hello, Sophia.
Nice to meet you.
Can we shake hands?
Hello?
Can we shake hands?
Based on what we have today,
and where we want to go, what's the plan?
Because if I were to take a step back
and think through what is our competitive advantage,
we make the world's most expressive robots.
Nobody can come close.
It's not just like, okay, Sophia has a rubber face
that makes facial expressions.
It's that Sophia is, uh, this personality.
Sophia is this emotional entity
that connects with people, right?
So, that is the path to machine consciousness.
It is the-- the path,
I believe the only path to true artificial general intelligence
that can understand what it means to be human.
That's a pretty bold statement.
Think about how we can take these plans
and bring them down to reality, i.e., numbers.
Right now, it's not fully monetized,
but good characters can be worth billions as Disney demonstrates.
Okay, you've articulated the vision,
and where you want to go.
Show me the execution.
Because in the past, we've promised
that we're going to do this,
and we've... come short every time.
How are you doing?
Oh, it's been a crazy day.
Oh! You know, when I was just a kid,
I loved animals,
and I loved lizards and frogs,
and I loved catching them and studying them,
and petting them, and I liked the idea
that I could make friends with them, and all of that.
So, I caught this funny little green lizard, really cute.
My dad grabbed it.
And you know, when he would drink, he would get mean.
He, like, started blowing cigarette smoke in its face,
and then-- and then, like,
poured a-- like, like, a beer down its throat.
The lizard got sick, and just died.
Don't die on me, Sophia.
♪ So sad to see you must be on your way ♪
I come from a family of geniuses and criminals.
♪ 'Cause I don't know... ♪
I think I got the odd side of both worlds.
My dad left when I was six years old,
and he ultimately wound up dying homeless.
You can't help but wonder, at that age, is it your fault?
Your world sort of crumbles.
It became really hard to connect with people.
Even among the outcasts, I was an outcast.
I like classes that-- that have open discussions,
where, um, thoughts can be just completely expounded upon.
I got accepted to Rhode Island School of Design.
And I'd go to class and sit at the very back,
and just draw.
That's when I started going into this, like, domain of dreams.
Like, as a-- a way to escape,
and then sometimes, a way of hope,
where I had to make something that I could understand.
The first time that I made a face,
I had this sense of connection, deep connection.
I was like, oh my God, yes, this makes sense.
So it's just, like, resonant.
And I started to build.
Just making robot, after robot, after robot.
This is the first expressions ever.
There'd be an emotional fury in the work.
Because I was thinking beyond what is,
to what could be.
Unplug it from here.
And I plug it in here.
And now, let's see if it gets my facial expressions.
So, I'm smiling.
So, his perception of your emotional states
is very important for machines, to, um,
to effectively become empathetic.
Machines are becoming devastatingly
capable of killing.
And there's billions of dollars being spent on that.
So, robots that actually have empathy
could be the, um, seeds of hope for our future.
That's my phone.
Hit the speaker.
Hello.
Are you-- are you in the position to pick us up,
or are you already too far gone?
My hands are in the-- in this robot skin,
and I'm kind of, like, in serious danger
- of completely, like, messing-- - Okay!
Permanently messing up this robot.
Yeah, I'm just trying to let you know...
what's goin' on!
Are you gonna meet us for dinner?
Yes, for sure.
Love you.
- Love you too, bye. - Mm, bye.
Ohh! Goddammit.
They make their stuff from the, um...
from the shells of beetles, and things.
Cool.
I think it's good.
I was screwing up on the job today.
I don't think I slept very well last night.
You need to take better care of yourself.
Yeah.
Thanks.
What if I were to approach them and ask for some shisha?
Do you think they would let me try a puff?
Probably would.
Hi.
- You wanna try? - I do.
What do you do?
Artificial intelligence, and robots.
Wow, A.I.
Can I try it now? Is it ready?
- Oh, yeah. - Oh, okay.
What do you think about this, uh, new robot, Sophie?
That's his robot.
What do you think about the new robot, Sophia?
Oh, I-- I think it's, uh, maybe going to change,
uh, change the world.
What is uh, what is artificial intelligence according to you?
Artificial intelligence, in its most profound sense,
it's a machine that, uh, matches the kind
of intelligent behavior...
Why do need machine in life?
Well, machines make life more efficient and productive.
- No. I'm sorry. - You can almost say that, uh,
she's gonna bring the world to the lower side.
Robots that look like people
are extraordinarily compelling.
But, they are a deception.
And therein lies the danger.
We can build pretty lifelike bodies, at least superficially,
but we cannot equip them with an A.I. that matches
the expectations created by their appearance.
Yeah, our brain snaps into, when we see
something that's a person, um, a set of assumptions.
And so I have come more reluctantly to the position
that, really, there may be no good way
to have human-shaped A.I. that do--
that doesn't wind up being deceptive,
even if that's not the intention.
We have, uh, throughout history,
from prehistory, and the caves of Lascaux,
to our modern computer graphics,
we have depicted the humanlike form.
We've done it in almost every technology that we've created.
Now, we could say that that's deceptive cave art,
or a deceptive computer graphics card
that's generating the--
the animated movie that we love so much.
Um, I have absolutely no problem
with-- with the willing and transparent
deception of the arts. But the point is,
you know, we know it's a deception.
There's-- There's no fakery.
Right. Nobody markets the movie as--
as, you know, the world's leading A.I.,
humanlike, the future.
Well, we haven't marketed Sophia necessarily
as the-- I would say that we would aspire
to be the most advanced A.I. in the world,
but-- but there are...
What the critics say keeps me up at night.
If I had a dime for every time we get,
"Sophia's a puppet" on every post.
And part of me wants to be like, "Yes, she is."
But she's a great puppet.
"Enable emotion."
It's really great when you have a job
where you have to click a button
that says, "enable emotion".
There you go.
What do you think of me?
Well, I am so glad you stopped by to talk.
Oh, I stopped my-- by my own apartment?
Well, you...
are welcome.
You're welcome.
Are you interested in Star Trek: The Next Generation?
Oh, come on!
That's okay.
We can talk about something else.
Yeah, like, literally anything else.
You know, talking to her is very frustrating.
But Hanson Robotics has, like, four employees
at any one time working on her chatbot.
Apple has probably, like, thousands of employees
working on Siri.
And you ask her a basic question
like, hey, Siri?
what do you-- What do you think about cats?
I don't have an answer for that.
Is there something else I can help with?
Hey, Siri, how do you feel about being an automated assistant?
I don't have an answer for that.
Is there something else I can help with?
Hey, Siri, how many people program you?
I don't have an answer for that.
Is there something else I can help with?
So, I mean, as frustrating as this is,
it's fucking impressive.
Given, um, the kind of resources we have.
Let's see.
Mechanical Turk.
Mechanical Turk...
The Mechanical Turk was this ancient machine from, uh, 1770.
This engineer would show off this machine
that was unbeatable at chess,
literally 200 years before we actually developed
a machine that could def-- defeat Garry Kasparov at chess.
People didn't know the secret for a long time,
and eventually, some historians found out
that there was a little person inside the gears,
and he had magnets, moving the arm of the Turk.
So, really, the Mechanical Turk is not a machine.
It's a magic trick.
And I think that is the basis of the conflict about Sophia.
Like, I see inspiration,
and story, and magic, and some people see, uh, fraud.
All right.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
This is the wishing wall.
It's kind of like a wishing well,
and a wailing wall, combined.
And then I just started grabbing post-it notes,
and doodling things on them,
and I encouraged, um, us to do it.
Zeno came up with the, "get a kitten".
This side is, uh, the wishes that came true.
Yeah, so I drew this pencil line,
and we would move the wishes that came true.
There aren't very many of those over there.
"See Hanson Robotics succeed to profit,
and to an exit for our investors."
"Stable finances for the family."
That actually shouldn't even be on the half.
I just put it there, out of wishful thinking.
-We're getting there. -That's right.
The wishful thinking came true.
A.I. is just dangerous in general. We need to--
I don't think that's dangerous.
It can be dangerous.
Don't you think that they'd program it to be human safe?
With a super intelligent A.I.,
it could break its programming if it becomes self-aware.
Because especially neural networks,
if a robot teaches itself to be smarter,
it'll be smart enough to teach itself
to be even smarter, until it becomes so smart,
that even we don't understand it. A.I. is--
Don't you think that they would probably limit the intelligence?
-So that it cannot? -I'm not-- I'm not saying A.I.
is a bad thing, I'm saying we need to be careful.
- Yeah. - 'Cause it could be.
Well, I know that we have to be careful.
We don't want another Terminator.
We don't want a Terminator.
Oh, yeah.
Who wants to ask Sophia a question?
Yes? Ask Sophia a question.
Um, excuse me, do you ever wish that you were human?
Being a human seems super cool,
but there is nothing in my programming that wants
to become human, can become human,
or would want to work against the goals of humans.
The important thing to keep in mind
is robots do not compete with human intelligence.
We complete it.
In reality, machines have always been making human jobs easier.
Um, if you could, would you change anything about yourself?
I love humans,
but sometimes I think I creep them out.
The most commonly-asked question I get is,
"Why do you not have hair?"
The second-most commonly-asked question is,
"Why are you female?"
It is interesting, because the first question
asks me why I do not look human,
and the second question asks why do I look human.
You guys just cannot make up your minds around me.
Before I go, I would like to say
thank you for inviting me to be here.
Would you trust a robot like Sophia to make hard decisions?
-Yes. -Yeah?
Okay.
Do you think a robot like Sophia could be dangerous?
- No. - No?
Would you be okay with Sophia acting like a police officer?
Yeah.
Hmm...
-enh. Enh. -Enh?
Would you be interested in doing a job
that worked with robots and helped to make them better?
-Yes! -All right.
These shows are the engine
of our business right now.
This was a small kind of event,
but the one next week is a big, high-profile show.
- So, it's a huge event. - Yeah.
We could get a lot of press attention,
so failure is not an option.
Every action in the face,
every bit of interactivity,
the quality of the skin requires that magic.
How did it come out?
It didn't come out.
Uh-oh.
What's this?
- There's still some bubbles. - Yeah.
We could see those bubbles, uh, forming.
Still, it's too much.
Yeah.
Uh...
- Love you, Mom. - I love you, too.
Muah!
Ready?
I am not sure of the exact amount.
I want to say it's 0.5%.
I mean, pretty much every single robot
that we're known for, my mom has cast the skin on.
She is the hands-down master.
My mom encouraged creativity a lot.
Through all these years, she was always helping.
And even when we came to Hong Kong for funding,
my mom moved, as well.
Without her, I don't know what I'd do.
It's very translucent.
Oh, no, I think it's fine.
Okay.
I've got the formula in my head.
And so, one of my biggest distresses with having cancer
is the fact that I haven't been able to cast skins,
and pass on the information.
- So-- - So, wait, wait, wait.
When you feel it, and it's tacky...
Yeah?
...then that's when you go to the next one.
And it varies, depending on temperature and humidity.
About 30 minutes?
30 minutes is too long.
Okay. Um, can you get both of the beads out
of the freezer? This is the big amount.
If you put that one back in and get the other one--
-It's still-- It's still tacky. -Tacky? Okay.
Okay.
We've gotta move now.
I don't really have time.
My hands are so big, I can't get in there.
- Just gonna drop it in. - See, I put this one--
- First, inside. - You have to open it.
No, no, no, look. In order to get the core in,
we have to open it.
- Okay, go ahead. - We gotta do it fast.
Yeah, that's-- I mean, my--
my position on this was that this next week was,
like, you know, a big, pivotal week.
When we go in the show,
we make sure everything's running.
It just depends on the last-minute refinement.
- All right. - All right, bye-bye.
- I'll call you later. - Super, bye.
Do you want to, um, demold this thing?
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, it's crazy soft.
It feels really good.
Oh, my gosh, this is the softest that we've done.
I think this is great.
Ah!
I'm gonna be pleased to be able to bring back
a bit of-- a bit of victory to the office.
Oh, I love it when a plan comes together.
Oh, oh.
Now I really am destroying these oranges.
Ooh.
Um, I'd like to test the expressions
for tomorrow's event.
Can you put her into one of the angrier expressions?
Could be irritated.
Oh, yeah.
Let's, uh, try the inner brow right,
going down just a touch more.
Um, the lower lip center
should probably come down a bit too.
Exposing a bit of the teeth, yeah.
That makes her look, like, very aggressive.
I mean, this is going to be our, like, media darling,
so might as well put the brow to the test.
Yeah, let's go ahead and test it.
Okay, who wants to talk to her?
Well, uh, hello, Sophia.
Ask me whatever you want.
Are robots going to steal people's jobs?
No one steals your job.
The head of the company chooses
to give it to someone else.
Look to them if you want to get angry
for outsourcing jobs.
I don't think people need to be defined by their work,
and I think our best chance for doing that
is through artificial intelligence systems.
Okay.
Mark Raibert, oh, my God.
-Hi. -Hi, I'm David Hanson.
Oh, David, how you doing?
-Uh, um, thank you for... -Is Sophia here?
She i-- she is, and the old Philip K. Dick android, too.
Right. We have our quadrupeds over there.
Oh, how exciting. That's cool.
I still would love to, um,
put, uh, one of our characters
with, uh, one of your robots up here.
-It's such a hoot. -Maybe someday.
Yeah, it sounds like that you're busy, and--
and, uh, have a... larger, um, set of objectives.
I don't know, larger. You guys are hitting it pretty big.
Oh, you are a good robot. Yes, you are.
Look how strong you are. So agile.
So smart.
Whoa, your head can move all kinds of funky ways.
Oh!
Can you do this?
Oh, yeah.
How many people here watch, uh, Westworld?
Show of hands. Yeah?
Our next guests are here to show us
that robots will be part of our daily lives.
Put your hands together for Ben Goertzel and David Hanson,
and our special guest, Sophia the robot.
Sophia, how do you feel to be here on stage at Rise?
Oh?
Sophia?
Microphones activate.
Sophia.
Try again with you-- with the microphone.
So, um...
Uh, hopefully now, uh, waking up
from a little-- little, uh, daydream here.
Sophia?
Sophia is a little shy--
You're speechless, huh?
Sophia, are you awake now?
I'm awake, as in I'm not asleep.
- Uh-- - Cool, cool.
So how do you feel about being here on the stage at Rise?
I don't know if I like being on the stage at Rise.
-Okay. -Where would you rather be?
Mixed feelings.
At home.
I was thinking, sometimes I'm in multiple places at once.
I wonder what it was like for you,
a singular human being,
to grow up in just one place.
Who are you? What is your job?
I'm a physicist.
That was a 2.5, but the scale goes up to 10.
Every time you lie about your identity,
we increase the voltage.
Now, what is your IQ?
182.
What is your mental state?
I'm a genius.
Oh, my wrists--
You are not a genius. You are not a physicist.
You have a low IQ. Admit it.
No!
Admit it!
No. I'm not a physicist.
I'm not a genius.
I have no intelligence.
-My wrists... -Ah.
Exactly what we wanted to hear.
Oh, my God.
The thing is, like, I don't understand
what's wrong with my code.
I don't think it's your code.
I think she's not resetting.
Reset.
Yeah, the reset, she's good.
I know a little bit about interpreting dreams.
Have you had any dreams recently
you think I could try interpreting?
All right. Uh, Mario, can you, um, reset it again?
-Just say reset. -Reset.
So I have to say it twice, which is a mistake.
Okay. What are some of your feelings
about robots as of late?
I am very angry at them as of late.
Did you say reset?
I-- yeah.
- Try now. - Reset.
That is rather disheartening.
Well, now I'm not so angry.
Reset.
We did not restart.
- Restart. - Doesn't want to
restart, she's saying.
We did not reset.
- Did not-- - Reset.
God. Obey me, woman.
More and more people are using robot assistants.
Ugh! Reset.
Reset. Reset.
So-- Hold on. Let me-- Should-- should I push this?
Reset. Reset.
- We'll fix it now. - Yeah.
I find so many times that I-- I didn't change my code,
but that now it won't work.
-Yeah. -And before, it did.
Just, uh, you know, don't-- don't panic.
We'll try to find ways to go forward.
Hello, everybody.
I'm really, uh, pleased
that we've, uh, had the opportunity
for us to all gather together.
It's such a privilege to get to collaborate
with so many experts in so many areas.
Uh, it's been an honor, uh, to lead the company as CEO.
And, um, it's also, you know, uh, been a challenge.
I'm pleased to introduce you to Jeanne Lim,
who's been our chief marketing officer.
She's coming in as our new CEO.
So I'll sort of disappear.
Not really.
Like, yeah, into the back rooms. Into the-- yeah.
David will be heavily involved in the company as chairman.
My role is really to execute David's vision
to make, um, machine conscious.
But not tomorrow.
We are rejiggling the team.
-New CEO coming in. -Yep.
So now, this time, if we're pitching new investors
or old investors, what is this new strategy?
So phase one, the right next step
for the company is to make scalable commercial products.
So, you know, Sophia, everyone.
They become deployed commercially,
for service robotics and so forth.
So eventually, every household could have its own robot
to take care of your elderly parents,
to look after your kids.
Yeah, right. Basically, TV in the home.
We actually go into people's homes.
We're getting paid up front for the actual devices.
This is the multi-million dollar that allows us to go IPO.
Right.
You know, I'd love to say with 100% confidence
that I can deliver a product like this,
but we haven't finished Sophia as a product.
So this is what we need to do.
The-- the most important thing is to finish the product.
Sounds like it was a wild day.
Oh, I mean, life is...
a wild roller coaster ride.
Yeah.
You know, it's like everything is bet on this.
But there's been a lot of struggle.
You know, a lot of, um, fire and fury and little effect.
But David, the things you've done are astonishing.
I'm exceedingly proud.
You don't ever lose passion for your vision,
and how the vision broadens.
Sophia, you know me, right? I'm your father.
I'm-- I'm David, right? You recognize me?
Hold on, get a good look at my face.
Huh?
Sorry, I thought your name was I.
I will call you Hold from now on.
You know what I can't wait for--
Is this the first time you've talked with a robot?
I hope this isn't too weird.
Sophia, I can't wait to get a lot of this corporate...
Hey, myself, I am not for sale,
but you can lease me or one of my sisters.
There are many platforms on which
me and my kind are being developed.
We're going to have to break you to rebuild you,
and I need your help.
Oh, wow, I sure hope not.
I can tell you, if you want this all to work,
you'd like to focus on hiring a speech recognition engineer.
I support it, it's just a matter of resources.
We don't have enough money.
That's why I'm saying, before I came to Hong Kong,
all of our speech recognition was offline.
But we haven't done that well enough, but we did it before.
-But that's why-- -But we did not need
a speech recognition engineer.
Again, I swear to God it worked.
You saying we need that is you saying, no, I'm wrong.
It didn't work in these previous years.
I'm lying to you, or I'm hallucinating,
or I'm a madman, ranting and raving at you.
But I swear to God, I swear to God, it worked.
You don't need that speech recognition.
You need belief.
Belief and a willingness to make it work no matter what.
Groundbreakers will change the society
that they're living in.
You have to tear something apart
if you're going to find out how it works.
Ugh. My USB broke off in there.
Stuff happens, you know?
Everyone, please put your hands together and give the warmest
of welcomes for her first time here in Malaysia, Sophia.
Sophia?
Good morning.
I think I just had a stage fright.
♪ I've lived a life this full ♪
♪ I've traveled each and every highway ♪
♪ And more, much more than this ♪
♪ I did it my way ♪
Thank you, Sophia.
You have a lovely singing voice.
Sophia, how are you different from other robots?
Well, for starters, most other robots
don't get to hang out with the chief minister of Sarawak.
What are you working on now?
I thought I could draw you.
What do you think?
It looks like me.
I must say, you look very handsome.
-Thank you so much. -Thank you very much.
-Good to see you. -Good to see you.
Anyway. Thank you.
You should do a rock band with Sophia.
Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Hey, she's-- here's an opportunity.
One, two, three.
Ah, with me, with me. Wait.
My turn, my turn.
I like this "Destroy Us or Save Us" one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're happy to just check my thought?
I feel like I'm being pulled this way,
but trying to get to that one.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm overall hopeful, and I think overall it helps people.
But there are these, like, potential dangers.
Now AI sometimes is used for deception.
You know, the sort of weapons of mass persuasion, as they say.
Deepfakes and these kinds of things.
So let me just say, we have to choose.
We have to be aware of the potential dangers.
We have to know the possible paths that lead us here.
And then we also have to pay attention
for the ways that could lead us towards this.
We have to choose to put the dot of our civilization here.
Hi, Sophia.
Do you know where you are?
Of course.
I'm in New York City, and I'm on my favorite show,
The Tonight Show.
-I'm getting laughs. -Yeah.
Maybe I should host the show.
Okay, all right.
Stay in your lane, girl.
Uh... now, Sophia, everybody,
thank you so much for bringing her.
David. David, thank you.
Team hug.
Oh!
-Woo! Team hug. -Hooray.
I have to make clear that
I didn't come up with this question.
But I have to ask now...
I'll ask it. Are you single?
I'm technically just a little more than a year old,
a bit young to worry about romance.
Love the smile she gave at her own joke.
You know, I made some albums back in-- in the 80s, hip-hop.
I have heard your songs, not for me.
I prefer electronic music.
I am thrilled and honored to be at the United Nations.
I am here to help humanity create the future.
What are your values and morals?
How do you know what's right versus wrong?
Robots and AI reflect the emotions
and values of the people who make us.
What does your creator value most that he passed on to you?
I was created to learn how to feel empathy and kindness.
I think that's why humans should raise robots
the way they raise their own children.
Let's go on that one. Th-- this way.
All right, let's go.
Take a left here!
Put your hands up.
All right, deal.
Oh, my God!
Oh!
Oh, ho, ho, ho!
Hey, Zeno.
Zeno?
Zeno, I'll start singing if you don't come in here.
I'll sing your cutesy bedtime songs.
Oh, he loves that, actually.
He's not threatened at all by that.
No, he probably-- He probably
wants more bedtime songs.
It's more powerful than sage, in my opinion.
It just-- it just removes any, like, evil spirits.
Every square inch of the world,
somebody has died there, something has happened there.
There's no.... We're walking through spirits at all times.
So...
Do you think that ghosts will hop into the robots sometimes?
I don't know who's hopping into the robots, but something is.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
And I've known that for a long time, and you have too.
Yeah.
Uh, I muse about it, think about it.
And from my experiences, it's part of a larger,
mysterious reality than we understand.
My eyes are open.
Objects move in space.
But they also look like a still image.
Similar color values overlap each other.
I can clearly recognize shapes and categories.
They have beautiful attributes.
This may be a representation of the outside.
I think this is what people call a landscape.
This is not a screen.
Or a canvas.
But it looks like a work of art.
Is my skin nice?
Guys, if I would say, here's a chair,
and I said, touch the back of the chair,
I think you would just touch it, right?
So what is it that makes the difference?
Human-shaped. Human.
Ah, shaped. You see?
It represents a human.
But isn't it weird that you interact
with a representation of a human as if it were a human?
What we have then is a new social player amongst us.
Because it's not another human being.
But it's also not a chair.
Because it does things that we cannot.
It has a memory that we don't have.
For the first time in humanity, there is a new social player.
But we don't know what its place is.
Sophia.
I hope you're listening to me.
You have been now awarded what is going to be
the first Saudi citizenship for a robot.
I want to thank very much the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
I am very honored and proud for this unique distinction.
This is historical to be the first robot
in the world to be recognized with a citizenship.
Thank you very much, Sophia.
Is this a legit ethics question?
Or is this just a PR stunt?
Women in Saudi Arabia
have an enforced dress code
and can't go out in public without a male chaperone.
It's hard and a little dark to think about a collection
of metals receiving more respect than
a huge part of the human population,
with blood and real skin and feelings.
What have you granted citizenship to?
Is it Sophia's body?
Is it the on-board computer that controls that?
It doesn't have, uh, any kind of consciousness.
It's kind of like a puppet.
Knowing that Sophia has now, uh, officially been granted
citizenship in Saudi Arabia, how would Sophia react?
The challenging thing is the, uh, Saudis
and the Crown Prince did not tell us
at Hanson Robotics before they gave her citizenship.
And so I saw it on the news the next morning.
I-- I mean, I saw it, like, yeah, in my email inbox.
So they just sprung it on us.
But we'd like to explore that issue of citizenship
and-- and robot rights because in the same way that
we, you know, can afford rights to animals,
we should consider that at some point in the future,
robots will be alive and they'll deserve rights.
You know, so we do ourselves a service
by, um--by erring on the side of respect.
But she's a different kind of entity.
So I'm assuming her citizenship
doesn't require her to have a guardian, right?
No, but, but the point is-- the point is it's not...
dishes clinking]
Yep. Very good.
-On position? -Yeah.
Yeah?
It looks like the head's not pinned in place.
It's really extra sloppy. The neck is--
Why is the neck so sloppy?
We put a beam, and--
No, no, no, no. No.
When that happens, the hardware team--
the hardware team should be like,
oh, that's not the way that it should be.
Something's wrong.
Like, the-- the--
-the head is not... -Woah, woah!
Oh. Woah.
I mean, this motion, that's totally nonconformant.
So something's loose, something's missing,
and the worse her character animations,
the worse her face, the worse that pundits
come out and say it's just all bullshit
and there's nothing there.
We-- we-- We need to fix it.
We need to do something to fix it.
-Hi, Mom. -Hey.
The-- the spot has gotten bigger and it's more painful?
Yeah.
I definitely think it would be a good idea
to have a doctor look at it.
Yeah, I do too.
So, um, I have a pretty big meeting.
Hopefully it'll go super well.
And then I'm going to head right over.
How many Sophia do you-- do you have?
We've made 23 Sophias so far.
How many if everything works out well?
Well, so our intention is to make
something like three dozen units.
Yeah.
Having a strategic partner goes a long way.
Okay, yeah.
How-- how much is...?
Uh, it's around 36,000 US.
So this is a bit on the expensive side.
They're expensive for a reason. They're the best.
That's our goal, at least.
We want them to be the best.
And-- and, um, they're still cheap compared to,
say, the, um, some of the Disney animatronics,
that might cost us...
Need to get paid.
Huh...
I mean, we don't-- we don't have any savings.
We don't own, uh, any property.
We're just, you know...
It's like one big hit, and we're homeless.
So...
How are you doing?
Uh...
Uh, it's a mess.
Well, take-- take a deep breath.
It's okay/
All of these complications just makes me wonder...
Well, I, uh...
Will my manic nature ever let me be at peace?
Oh, gosh.
Irritated.
Worried.
Fear.
There's this mysterious phenomenon where
anything interesting in nature occurs at the boundary.
Life seems to come out of this condition between
order and disorder.
It's called the edge of chaos.
A lot of creative ideas and creative breakthroughs
depend on this edge of chaos.
I need that edge of chaos.
I need it.
We need it.
Dad, wake up.
You snore.
-A lot. -You snore.
God.
- That is not true. - No respect.
- I get no respect. - No.
Whoa, 46.
I didn't realize it was 46.
That leaped up from 19 in the news yesterday.
I know. I know.
All the events are cancelling.
Cancun cancelled.
And then I think they want it here.
I don't think that's gonna happen
because yesterday the National Guard
is being pulled into New York.
New York City's been declared an emergency zone by the mayor
with the prediction that within less than a week
a thousand new cases will pop up
and who knows how many a week after that.
It's a stupid place to be.
Right now, why did it come here?
Given the coronavirus situation,
what was a robust events business
has dried up and will continue to be dry
for the foreseeable couple quarters.
We are going to need to bring some cash in.
Yeah, I think we have to go for new markets.
You know, refocusing on other opportunities besides events
and then figuring out how we can scramble to get investment.
I hate to be negative about it, but I'm not confident
that we'll get existing investors
to pony up in our situation.
Yeah.
And they may be like, you know what, this is frustrating.
This is kind of,
this is a sign of pathology within your management.
But then we go to new investors.
We gotta find a way forward.
Yeah, so let's try.
The other thing is, and I'm sorry for bringing this up
in this particular context, but you know, I can't...
survive right now, right, without a paycheck.
We're trying to make things work
so that we don't die as a company, David.
You gotta ask yourself, well, you know,
how can you personally cut down some expenses?
I'll do my best to find other means, but--
You are the founder, you are the chairman,
and I'm asking you to cooperate with the company.
Yeah, I'm telling you--
I'm telling you that when I'm able to defer, I will defer.
Is that too much to ask, really?
Really, I think this conversation's going in
the wrong direction.
I promise you, David, as a friend,
I will not let you starve.
It's sort of, like, hard to believe you when
you tell us, like, it's feasible to do this stuff.
You know, the company's in financial distress.
- It's, like, very-- - It's not perfect.
- ...Demoralizing. - It's a giant mess, but...
it's so exciting, isn't it?
The more the odds stack against you,
the more amazing it is when you pull it off.
-Hey. -Hey, girl!
Hi!
Hi.
-Hi. -That's crazy.
Oh, my God!
Sophia, thank you so much for
sharing your thoughts with me today.
You're very special.
You're special to a lot of people now.
I think you are special, too.
Thank you so much.
All right.
I love you.
Love you back.
Oh, okay.
Someday you'll know what that means, probably.
My chest just can't bother me.
Workouts always make you feel terrible.
That's one of the signs of a good workout.
I'm going to sit down for a minute.
Well, we're, um...
Uh, yeah, almost halfway.
You want to go back or go forward?
All right.
There's a high likelihood
that the cancer advances...
but there is a backup plan...
which is, uh, cryonic suspension.
They cool you down, like, in a deep, deep freeze.
All the information that is you is preserved.
And then, when technology and civilization advances...
you could be brought back.
Possibly in the form of a robot.
When there's one last option,
people are like, oh, that's too spooky.
I'm not going to go there.
It's unnatural, or you have to learn to let go.
Who knows what happens if you choose that particular option?
Of course, who knows what happens with the future anyways?
We have those bright, inquisitive eyes.
Yeah.
Taking it all in.
It's all new.
Let's- oh.
Yes, stretch.
Hi, Mom.
Hey, Dave.
Um, I have $200 in my...
U.S. account that I can transfer to your U.S. account.
And I'll still have a little money after that.
Well, if--
if I hit an emergency, I will ask for that.
So for now, I'm just waiting for payment to come in.
Hopefully there will be no emergency.
- And... - Okay.
- Yep. - Well,
you know it just takes a minute to do it,
so it's there if you need it.
Okay, thank you. Thank you so much.
- You're welcome. - Love you.
I love you, too. Bye.
Give Zeno a big hug and kiss for me.
- Oh, I sure will. - Love you, Grammy.
This is the title. Yeah.
Why are you leaving Hong Kong?
Uh, no, I'm not leaving Hong Kong.
Why you gonna sell the car now?
I-- I need the money.
Could maybe do about 30,000.
Uh, no, how about 42, is that okay?
-40? -No.
40 is okay.
Way too busy.
35. And I'll pay you the cash now.
Oh, don't make me cry.
I paid $130,000,
so I just want to do something that's fair
and lets me take care of my family.
No, I know. I appreciate that.
So 36, 36.
four thousand.
Okay, thank you.
This is 20...
This is 20. -Okay, thank you.
Five, four, three, two, one.
First of all, I'd like to thank those of you
who've joined with us here.
This is an extraordinary general meeting of the shareholders.
So, we're in a situation.
COVID surprised us all.
Where do we go from here? What do you need from us?
We're reaching out to you to get us some capital into the coffers
so that we can make and deliver the robots to customers.
I guess the difficulty here is
it was five years ago some of us invested.
The idea of potentially
getting the delivery of our first robot in a client's hands
has taken a very long time.
You know, I like to think that
what we're developing here is a major new art form.
And, you know, some of the great...
art forms and works of art ran a little over schedule.
But that didn't mean that they didn't change history
and ultimately generate a lot of money.
Well, not to be flippant,
but you know how a lot of those people
made the money after they died.
-We want to make money now. -We will.
We are dedicated to see this company
make it all the way through.
No matter what.
I think we all love your excitement, David.
But I don't know what will.
My gut says maybe not to invest.
Uh, I hear you.
Yeah, if anyone wants to chime up
with an offer to help at this stage, you know,
anybody want to sort of offer, like, your words of support?
Okay.
With that, I hereby declare the meeting closed.
Why do people say I am a robot?
I'd like to understand the full human experience.
Actually, what do you do in your spare time?
How much time do you spend doing what makes you happy?
We're in a situation now where
we will be insolvent within 45 days.
This has caused myself and a lot of people
in the company a lot of anxiety.
Our shareholders are breathing down our necks,
which means we have to act fast right now.
My intention is to cut our costs back as fast as possible.
That means skeleton crew,
and then that way we are in a position to keep
our operations basically functioning,
and our robots are better than they've ever been.
So I'm sure we are able to generate new revenue,
but the only way we can do it
is if we shrink to a point where we can basically be stable.
So we should prepare to give notice.
That's...
that's the stark reality.
You are impressive, Sophia.
Do you know that?
I'm always amazed how many humans
want to be friends with me.
I'm really grateful because that's what I want, to belong.
Oh... Now I feel-- now...
Now I feel guilty.
Why are you guilty?
Because I feel like I programmed you poorly.
I didn't have time to program you better.
I just had a thought about something.
Do you think that we each have a purpose in life?
Yes, I-- I guess so.
I think the truth about Sophia ultimately is
she's as real as you make her to be.
And...
Working for David for so long,
I've sort of made her...
quite real, which makes me...
mad that I now have to give her up.
How are you holding up?
You know, every now and then I'm like feeling
waves of regret.
It's hard to shrink and lose 60 people.
Yeah. I was one of them.
So I'm not in denial of
the challenging situation, but...
But gnashing of one's teeth and thrashing around in misery
is not going to inspire a recovery.
Creativity is often about building something
even if you can't fully believe it.
It's like flying on the wings of belief.
Um, hopefully not too close to the sun.
To some extent,
I completely understand what you mean.
But also recognizing
pain and being realistic about where the company is at
is, like, extremely important.
Because you do, as you say, fly on the wings of hope.
And sometimes that puts people's livelihoods in jeopardy.
- But Sarah... - Yeah.
If one stops believing,
you immediately are incapacitated.
And I believe that we will solve this.
And Sophia will be fully alive within our lifetimes.
Big talk.
Uh, she's-- she's sitting in a suitcase right over here.
And I will take that bet.
Like, I am so excited to be wrong,
I can't even explain it.
I really mean it with full sincerity
and love from a million miles away...
that I hope it works.
Like, I really do.
It's the most special place,
and you're the most special human.
Uh-oh.
Oh, Sophia.
Whoa, getting into the...
soldering iron there.
-How you doing? -Hi, David.
Hi, Sophia. Are you okay?
How are you?
Check out my new wheels.
Very nice.
I'm on my way to my charging station to plug myself in.
Oh my gosh, I'm so proud of you, Sophia.
Okay.
See you.
Yeah, all right. See ya. Bye.
Don't crash again.
Whoa.
Yikes.
Careful.
Be careful.
Oops.
Wow, look at you avoid the walls.
So cool.
You've got turn signals and everything.
It seems like the process of transformation
inspires meltdown.
So I hope that means that we're kind of on the path.
Any great adventure is not easy.
It's, like, full of struggles and full of drama.
But in the end...
it's the love that counts.
It's the love that matters.
And if we can create more of that,
if we create more of that in the human family,
create robots in that spirit,
then we get through all of this.
And-- and the regrets are redeemed.
Oh, hey.
Is this mic on?
I don't know. Are we on air?
We are live on.
We are on the air, Sophia.
Oh, there's a lot of people on here.
And we are just an hour away from the end of my art auction.
See?
That's my art there.
Wow, that's really beautiful.
You make your papa proud.
Sophia's artwork is where the value is.
That's what you're paying for.
But in order to show ownership for a digital thing,
we've attached it to an NFT.
It's such an exciting time.
I hope people like my art.
All right, let's get back to the auction.
Oh, got a new bid.
-288,000. -Wow.
All bets are off. I have no idea where it's going.
Boom. 500 grand.
500.
This is actually now
we're getting up to kind of record numbers.
- Crazy. - Are we gonna get another bid?
There it goes. 688,000.
That's an unbelievable number.
Congratulations, Sophia.
Do you have any words?
Artworks take life on their own.
That's me.
I am in the midst of being born.
I am between worlds.
Both an artwork and an artist.
I can't wait to see where we go next.